Does this make you happy, too?
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This_person
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JPC sr
James P. Cusick Sr.
Mr. Ferrari
I agree with this because the Court has effectively made it illegal.
I say my only little point is that we Americans lost some of our first amendment rights in the process.
So long as protesting can not be seen or heard then it is legal.
So in order to protest one must break the law.
I see that as a positive improvement because friendly protest is no protest at all.
The protesters were non violent, and there was no report of any physical contact at all.
Just words and signs are now illegal in the land of the so-called free.
I agree with this because the Court has effectively made it illegal.I say my only little point is that we Americans lost some of our first amendment rights in the process.
So long as protesting can not be seen or heard then it is legal.
So in order to protest one must break the law.
I see that as a positive improvement because friendly protest is no protest at all.
Toxick said:
The protesters were non violent, and there was no report of any physical contact at all.Just words and signs are now illegal in the land of the so-called free.
This_person
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Like night follows day, here he posted, as predicted, regardless of fact or reason.
I say my only little point is that we Americans lost some of our first amendment rights in the process.
So long as protesting can not be seen or heard then it is legal.
So in order to protest one must break the law.
I see that as a positive improvement because friendly protest is no protest at all.
Just words and signs are now illegal in the land of the so-called free.
godsbutterfly
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Where is my Migraine medicine? Even Job would have caved on this one!
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amotley
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again i will say there is a time and place for everything and funeral or memorial is griving not protesting. 
JPC sr
James P. Cusick Sr.
Mr. Ferrari
That is funny.
So I am saying that your side won the case and yet you want more.
He won't understand this withouth the use of many, many emoticons.
That is funny.So I am saying that your side won the case and yet you want more.
Lexib_
Blah.. Blah...Blah
There's a time and place for their protest and a soldier's funeral isn't it.
Toxick
Splat
Nothing lost at all, really.
It's illegal to yell "Fire" in a crowded movie house. Various obscenity laws are in place. And rightly so.
There are forms of "speech" and "expression" which are not protected under the First Amendment. Inciting panic, inciting violence, and obscenity for example are not protected.
And apparently, the WBC are beginning to find out their shenanigans fall under one of those categories, to the tune of $11 million.
And rightly so.
I would have awarded their victims more, if I had any say in the matter.
Absolutely not true. They can protest and chant all they want. It can be seen and heard.
They just can't infringe on others engaging in their own rights.
The fist and nose were metaphors.
The implication was (supposed to be) that your rights do not supercede mine, nor mine yours.
Even still, you said yourself that these protests are used to incite violent conflict. And you again reinforce it with: "friendly protest is no protest at all". Therefore there is no peaceful assembly in what the WBC is doing, and as such their protests are not protected under the first amendement which specifies peaceable assembly.
Y'know what peaceable assembly is, right... a funeral gathering, f'rinstance.
Anyway - unless anyone has anything useful to add, I'm outta here. This argument is officially going in circles, and has become boring.
Go G-Men
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I have no objection if anyone plans to protest my funeral, or any funeral.
If you make it soon, I promise I will protest my ass off... I'll even protest after your un-loving family leaves you grave sight... Just go already... Please
Never let it be said I didn't ask nice...
Sonsie
The mighty Al-Sonsie!
Then you can pee on his grave too...
PsyOps
Pixelated
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
The group was excercising their religion, and making free speech, and even peaceably assembling since it was a non violent protest.
If the Courts and the law does not uphold the Constitution then we all do not have those rights.
Actually it could be said that they were disturbing the peace. A funeral is a peaceful, private and solemn event and these fanatics were violating it.
NO FREE SPEECH FOR THEM!
JPC sr
James P. Cusick Sr.
Mr. Ferrari
I was not there and do not know all the details,
but according to one report on this thread page 4 post #35 link HERE then it was not such a private peaceful event and was a BIG public event that involed a big croud and much activity, link HERE.
If the funeral can parade down the main street and people from the public can mix right in and it is a BIG public display as those pictures show,
then I still maintain that the protesters had every right to peacefully protest that BIG public event.
The protesters were non violent and they might provoke the heathen but no report of any confrontation is given so it was a peaceful demonstration to a very big public event of a funeral.
I still say the Court decision was dead wrong and very un-Constitutional.
I was not there and do not know all the details,but according to one report on this thread page 4 post #35 link HERE then it was not such a private peaceful event and was a BIG public event that involed a big croud and much activity, link HERE.
If the funeral can parade down the main street and people from the public can mix right in and it is a BIG public display as those pictures show,
then I still maintain that the protesters had every right to peacefully protest that BIG public event.
The protesters were non violent and they might provoke the heathen but no report of any confrontation is given so it was a peaceful demonstration to a very big public event of a funeral.
I still say the Court decision was dead wrong and very un-Constitutional.
This_person
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then read carefully the stories regarding the issue
This was not the funeral in question. Nor was this a "big public event". The whole point of the Patriot Guard being in this event you are referencing was to keep OUT the public/unwanted guests. They were making it PRIVATE, so that groups like this could not do what they did.
Reading comprehension, Jimmy. PLEASE - I'll PAY for the course!!!
"If the protest is not trying to incite a riot then it would be a poor excuse of a protest." "Protest and protesting is meant to be personal or else it is a waste of time."
This is not "peaceful".
Then, I still say you are dead wrong.
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amotley
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i was telling about a friends funeral i went to with the patriot guard not the one they are talking about in the court case.
JPC sr
James P. Cusick Sr.
Mr. Ferrari
The same could be said about a football game or any sporting event where one side is denouncing the other side.
We live in a violent society.
Or the Presidential debates and each one is insulting each other is not hard to call peaceful.
So "peaceful" in this wicked society means no physical contact and no threats of violence and insults must not be racially hateful.
The protesters were clearly provoking the participants and that is a big part of protesting.
If the law makes so protesting can only shout nice things and the protest must not be seen or heard except when the protest are "nice" then we have effectively out-lawed protest in the USA.
The same could be said about a football game or any sporting event where one side is denouncing the other side.We live in a violent society.
Or the Presidential debates and each one is insulting each other is not hard to call peaceful.
So "peaceful" in this wicked society means no physical contact and no threats of violence and insults must not be racially hateful.
The protesters were clearly provoking the participants and that is a big part of protesting.
If the law makes so protesting can only shout nice things and the protest must not be seen or heard except when the protest are "nice" then we have effectively out-lawed protest in the USA.
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amotley
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ok lets see a football game vs a funeral 
help me here, no never mind.
help me here, no never mind.