Don't disagree with the Baptist's

[vraiblonde]

You know what sucks? That her doctors and nurses are bound by privacy laws and can't come out and give the real story on her condition.

See, that's what people don't seem to understand. All those Schindler-hired "specialists" and "nurses" don't have anything to do with her care and never have. They're giving their "opinions" based on pictures, video and hearsay - not a single one of them has actually examined Terri Schiavo, seen her medical records or even so much as spent any time in her presence.

One of these opinion-givers that was running her mouth on the talk shows was a CNA - a nurse's aide, not a nurse - who, if she DID have any role in caring for Terri, just broke confidentiality laws. Regardless, a nurse's aide doesn't have the education and experience to diagnose any patient, let alone one with an acute condition. She's basically a candy-striper, yet she was presented on this talk show as a "medical expert".

This whole thing is just UFB.

 

[vraiblonde]

PS, Tonio, don't you remember Christians going crazy over Baby Faye and the baboon heart? The discussion was "just because you CAN, does that mean you SHOULD?" regarding medical ethics and "playing God".

 

[2ndAmendment]

One of these opinion-givers that was running her mouth on the talk shows was a CNA - a nurse's aide, not a nurse - who, if she DID have any role in caring for Terri, just broke confidentiality laws. Regardless, a nurse's aide doesn't have the education and experience to diagnose any patient, let alone one with an acute condition. She's basically a candy-striper, yet she was presented on this talk show as a "medical expert".

This whole thing is just UFB.

You have that right. A CNA is an expert in bed pans and not much else.

 

[Tonio]

PS, Tonio, don't you remember Christians going crazy over Baby Faye and the baboon heart? The discussion was "just because you CAN, does that mean you SHOULD?" regarding medical ethics and "playing God".

Blast from the past! Yes, I remember that. But my question didn't have to do with going to unethical lengths to keep a body functioning. My question was limited to 2A's comment about not starting life support in the first place, and I think his answer made sense.

 

[Charles]

Nothing you ever post seems to have much of any point except to be a pain in the posterior. If you don't have the mental capabilities to contribute meaningfully, let us know and we will make allowances for your diminished capabilities.

Your arrogance just brings out the worst in me.

 

[Bruzilla]

So, I find it interesting that the religious folks have a problem with the feeding tube being removed. Don't they believe that God can perform miracles and make Terri whole again without the interferance of Man?

That reminds me of the joke that Sam Kinison used to tell about the need for the Popemobile. "We know that God protects the Holy Father, but just in case..."

 

[Larry Gude]

2a...

I do believe that Terri is brain dead, has been dead for many years, her spirit gone

There ain't no 'believe' to it. Your right and anyone who'll lift a finger and do some research, assuming their common sense is in utter lockdown these days, can find the truth for themselves.

Face it folks; There AIN'T no Terri. Hasn't been for 15 years.

 

[Bustem' Down]

Well, weather you believe Terri is alive or dead. The church he went to is it's own privete entity and can kick him out for whatever reason they choose.

 

[vraiblonde]

The church he went to is it's own privete entity and can kick him out for whatever reason they choose.

True dat but it sure does make them look like a bunch of freaks.

 

[Larry Gude]

Yep...

The church he went to is it's own privete entity and can kick him out for whatever reason they choose.

That is a fact and Terri is represented by Michael and he can pull her tube any time he likes. For any reason he chooses.

 

[2ndAmendment]

Your arrogance just brings out the worst in me.

Your lack of intelligent thought brings out my arrogance.

 

[Bustem' Down]

Well, at least Jonnie Cochran can't defend her.

 

[hamsterfang]

Well, at least Jonnie Cochran can't defend her.

Now you're going to start a conspiracy theory... Cochrane dying right before she's about to...

 

[Tonio]

Having been a Baptist, you all misunderstand when you group Baptist churches. Each church is independent. They may belong to the Southern Baptist Convention, but each church can decide on their own stance on issues. Just thought I'd point that out.

2A, did you ever read "To Kill a Mockingbird"? It's been years, but one character doesn't like the beliefs of the "foot-washers." According to the character, "foot-washers" believe that all pleasure is sinful and that women are sin by definition. What branch of Baptism was she talking about? Are the words that Harper Lee put in the character's mouth accurate, or is that just a stereotype of that denomination?

 

[Charles]

That must be why 2A is so grouchy, he doesn't believe in pleasure.

 

[2ndAmendment]

2A, did you ever read "To Kill a Mockingbird"? It's been years, but one character doesn't like the beliefs of the "foot-washers." According to the character, "foot-washers" believe that all pleasure is sinful and that women are sin by definition. What branch of Baptism was she talking about? Are the words that Harper Lee put in the character's mouth accurate, or is that just a stereotype of that denomination?

No, I have not read it, so I can't comment. Don't confuse baptism and Baptists. Or was that a typo? Like I said, Baptist churches are independent and can set their own standards and dogma. Some are aligned with an organization like the Southern Baptist Convention and some have no affiliation.

Charles, I find much in life pleasurable. On a different vein, I have found some of your recent posts informative and interesting. I would like to know what tweaked you to be POed at me?

 

[Tonio]

No, I have not read it, so I can't comment. Don't confuse baptism and Baptists. Or was that a typo? Like I said, Baptist churches are independent and can set their own standards and dogma. Some are aligned with an organization like the Southern Baptist Convention and some have no affiliation.

Sorry, I'm only trying to understand what distinguishes the denominations. I was baptized Presbyterian as a baby, and later I went to a Lutheran Sunday School. But I couldn't tell you anything about Presbyterianism or Lutheranism, although I obviously know who Martin Luther was. A few years ago my wife and I attended Unitarian Universalist services.

 

[2ndAmendment]

Sorry, I'm only trying to understand what distinguishes the denominations. I was baptized Presbyterian as a baby, and later I went to a Lutheran Sunday School. But I couldn't tell you anything about Presbyterianism or Lutheranism, although I obviously know who Martin Luther was. A few years ago my wife and I attended Unitarian Universalist services.

Nothing to be sorry for. We're OK. I have been a Lutheran until early teens, confirmed a Methodist, became a Baptist (because I walked out of a Baptist revival saying to myself I'll never be a Baptist. I'm sure God said, "Oh yeah?"), and am now a member of a Pentecostal church because of conviction by some scripture.

Baptists are big on baptism by immersion and not sprinkling and are at times great evangelists. Most of the Baptist congregations do not really believe in the gifts of the Holy Spirit, but they are not alone there as most of the major denominations do not.