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Stang Girl said:Sound like St. Mary’s County
My friend got hosed by the system. I think all guys get raked over the coals. guilty until act of God proves him innocent.
My friend got hosed by the system. I think all guys get raked over the coals. guilty until act of God proves him innocent.
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kwillia said:
You must not follow these kinds of cases as closely as I do. In most states there is one over-riding factor in determining custody - and that is that the birth mother, unless she's deemed to be completely unfit, gets the kid. And even then, if the mother gets her act together later on, she can petition the courts to reverse the previous order and grant her custody.
Fathers in this country have as close to zero rights as a person can get.
FromTexas
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Speaking of the double standard, I am sitting at the computer while my wife watches Dr. Phil. I overhear the mention of abuse by the wife. So, my ears perk up because here is the guy and his wife and he is talking about how violent she becomes. The wife admits it all and its one of those happy, froo-froo, Dr. Phil love ins going on.
What pisses me the hell off is here this women admits almost even beating her baby (although the look she had says to me she already had crossed that bridge) and she freely admits clawing the mans testicles and various other extreme abuses. She wants help. Here is the audience and Dr. Phil talking about getting her immediate help and being so understanding.
Now, imagine that was a man beating his wife that way. Imagine he had almost (if not already) had lost control with the baby. That nice caring female audience and Dr. Phil would have been telling the woman to get the hell out. She needed to take the child and go away. Etc....
An abuser is an abuser. Shut the hell up with the froo-froo stuff because she is a woman. There is a child involved. Tell the man to get the hell out with the child, she has admitted her problem. These things won't change overnight, if ever.
What pisses me the hell off is here this women admits almost even beating her baby (although the look she had says to me she already had crossed that bridge) and she freely admits clawing the mans testicles and various other extreme abuses. She wants help. Here is the audience and Dr. Phil talking about getting her immediate help and being so understanding.
Now, imagine that was a man beating his wife that way. Imagine he had almost (if not already) had lost control with the baby. That nice caring female audience and Dr. Phil would have been telling the woman to get the hell out. She needed to take the child and go away. Etc....
An abuser is an abuser. Shut the hell up with the froo-froo stuff because she is a woman. There is a child involved. Tell the man to get the hell out with the child, she has admitted her problem. These things won't change overnight, if ever.
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Daddy_O said:
This is why this is such an interesting case. There never was an adoption. The birth mother documented the fact in court that she told the adoptive parents when the child was born that if for any reason the adoption didn't go through, she wanted the kid back. Now that's pretty odd, and everyone here has made note of that... not because it shows she was scheming to get even with the father but because it helps the adoptive parents' case Then you have the adoptive parents (in name only) waiting two years before going through the adoption process. Again... why? Could it be because they knew, although the birth mother denies telling them, that there could be issues with the father wanting custody and they wanted to have a case for keeping the kid (that's my guess.)
I think that in the good ole days there was no way to overturn an adoption. In this new enlightened era, you can do whatever a judge rules you can do, and that's why lots of crack moms are getting their kids back.
kwillia
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Wait a minute... I happened to have that episode on while I was folding clothes yesterday afternoon... you missed the first half of the show where it was the husband that was the abuser and you missed the touchy-feely "Man, we aren't' hear to attack you, we are hear to help you" speach that dude was getting... so your example is a bad one... try again...FromTexas said:
FromTexas
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kwillia said:Wait a minute... I happened to have that episode on while I was folding clothes yesterday afternoon... you missed the first half of the show where it was the husband that was the abuser and you missed the touchy-feely "Man, we aren't' hear to attack you, we are hear to help you" speach that dude was getting... so your example is a bad one... try again...
What?! You expect me to watch all of Dr. Phil?!?! Bastard!
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FromTexas
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kwillia said:Too bad I had already hit you with juju this morning, I was gonna leave you some letting you know my parents were married when I was born...
Everyone is bastards today. I like the sound of that word today. The people who made a fire drill for teens degree weather, the people who drank my coke from the refriegarator, and people who point out my double standard argument flaws.
Dymphna
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According to this article, they didn't wait at all. It's been in court the whole time.Bruzilla said:
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Well... I could be wrong. But this didn't come to a head in court until late 2003. On the other hand, I don't believe a word that comes out of the mouths of those adopted parents. They've been caught in so many lies down here it was bad enough for a judge to break the law to get the truth out.