Electric Car News

glhs837

Power with Control
Right. With LEDs, you generally don't replace a bulb, it's integrated into the frame. You wind up replacing it because it got smashed.

Ford says "Hold my beer"


Your Price​

$ 760.50
All Discounts:$ 318.50 (30% off)
MSRP: $ 1,079.00

W/BLIND SPOT MONITOR.
35929. Left.W/BLIND SPOT MONITOR. Rear Left. Tail lamp assy.
"Hey Bob?"

"Yeah Fred?"

"Hows about we mold the expensive blindspot sensor into the fragile exposed plastic on the corner?

"Capital Idea, Fred!!!!! I see a bonus coming your way!!!"
 

glhs837

Power with Control
well then, that is a really POOR ****ING DESIGN where the bulb cannot be replaced

Now this is the one in question. no bulbs, just LED. But the LEDS should last close to forever. But in case of damage, well, you have a problem.

 

Sneakers

Just sneakin' around....
well then, that is a really POOR ****ING DESIGN where the bulb cannot be replaced
MTBF of an LED is hundreds of thousands of hours. They aren't expecting the LED to fail and require replacement. Costs less to integrate it into the assembly than to make a removable/replaceable 'bulb'.
 

Sneakers

Just sneakin' around....
A pretty good analysis of submerged EVs and potential for fire. Very interesting point..... the chance of a fire from the LOW VOLTAGE/LOW AMP 12VDC battery is much higher than the high voltage drive battery pack.

 

jrt_ms1995

Well-Known Member
Cost for outfitting for charging will be a pretty big variable. Most homes built after say 80 have the capacity, but layout matters. My rental, where the panels in the house and the garage is 20 feet away, will cost a bit. My own house, where the main panel is just one wall away from the garage, that would cost considerably less. And I wouldn't base your repair estimates on the Hummer. A Model 3 tail light should cost less than $500 if you have them send a tech out, about half that if you buy Ebay or junkyard parts and do it yourself.

And no, we don't have truly affordable EVs yet, that's a couple five years down the road, I think. If the Model 3 battery life works out as its supposed to, used ones of those should be in the low 30s in a few years and good to go for years after that.
So, which side of the vehicle (Teslas) are the charge ports? Been curious lately.
 

jrt_ms1995

Well-Known Member

glhs837

Power with Control
Hmmm, reasoned analysis. Wont get any play :) Nice to see her research on exactly how many fires in FL were caused by submerged EVs matches mine exactly. Lots of regurgitation of poorly documented initial claims without anything factual to back them up led to this perception of a lake of eternal lithium ion hellfire
 

glhs837

Power with Control
So, which side of the vehicle (Teslas) are the charge ports? Been curious lately.
Left rear. And the Cybertruck so far seems to be following that. Not easy to spot since unlike some makers, they don't make them stand out. Which I assume legacy makers do because the think "The rubes wont find it if its hidden".

 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

Green Boondoggle: Connecticut’s Electric Bus Fleet Still Out of Service After Summer Battery Inferno




In July, a battery fire caused an electric bus to burst into flames in Hamden, Connecticut. Luckily, no one died in the inferno, although two transit workers and two firefighters were hospitalized as a result of the blaze, and a federal investigation was triggered.

In September, the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) issued a preliminary report detailing how the electric bus operated by CT Transit became engulfed in flames while parked at a maintenance facility, according to a report by NHPR.

“The battery electric buses remain out of service while the investigations are ongoing,” DOT spokesperson Josh Morgan said.
 

Kyle

Beloved Misanthrope
PREMO Member
My new electric car comes with special upgrades. :jet:


roasting-campfire-hot-dog.jpg
 

glhs837

Power with Control
So, to bolster my argument that buying anything other than a Tesla, right now, and expecting to charge away from home is just asking for heartache.


Of interest is that they speak of 6,000 Level 3 stations. Of which 2,000 are Tesla Superchargers. What they don't say, and is sort a unspoken Tesla advantage, is that out of the 4,000 charging stations belonging to the other networks, there are usually far fewer plugs for station, and a higher incidence of plugs that are not operable. So if you are buying with the next five to seven years in mind, IMO, you will face these struggles.
 

Kinnakeet

Well-Known Member
Keep a broader mindset. Looking at worst case scenarios can tilt things. I've not seen a report covering more than places like CA and Canada. Also keep in mind, the Total Cost of Ownership (TCO) includes a lot of savings on maintenance items. They are significantly cheaper to maintain. And they are indeed greener when you do the math properly. The studies saying other wise forget things like oil usage, and the emissions counts for refining and shipping the fuel. Yes, EVs that charge using electricity generated by say natural gas face the same cost, but simple efficiencies of scale tell us that getting natural gas to a powerplant costs less than refining an equivalent amount of oil into gasoline and then using trucks to distribute that gasloine to various regional centers before using more trucks to deliver that gasoline to gas stations.

You need to look at it as a fuel life cycle, not just ignoring the stuff done to get that fuel to the vehicle. As far as batteries, again, its life cycle costs. These batteries can and will see the same sort of 100% recycling lead batteries do. In addition to finding second lives as storage devices. Which doesnt happen with gas engines, nobody takes the engine out of a scrapped car and uses it as a generator engine, do they?
Who really cares about being greener I know I do not I love gas guzzling high HP cars and diesel trucks ...JMO
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

Electric Cars Are Good, but We Still Need Fossil Fuels


"Because nature is not nice to humans," explains Mills, "we store energy for when it's cold or really hot. People who imagine an energy transition want to build windmills and solar panels and store all that energy in batteries. But if you do the arithmetic, you find you'd need to build about a hundred trillion dollars' worth of batteries to store the same amount of energy that Europe has in storage now for this winter. It would take the world's battery factories 400 years to manufacture that many batteries."

Politicians don't mention that when they promise every car will be electric. They also don't mention that the electric grid is limited.

This summer, California officials were so worried about blackouts they asked electric vehicle owners to stop charging cars!

Yet today, few of California's cars are electric. Gov. Gavin Newsom ordered that all new cars must be electric by 2035! Where does he think he'll get the electricity to power them?

"Roughly speaking, you have to double your electric grid to move the energy out of gasoline into the electric sector," says Mills. "No one is planning to double the electric grid, so they'll be rationing."

Rationing. That means some places will simply turn off some of the power. That's our final inconvenient fact: We just don't have enough electricity for all electric cars.

Worse, if (as many activists and politicians propose) we try to get that electricity from 100 percent renewable sources, the rationing would be deadly.
 
Top