glhs837
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Most people are not buying 100k new tech vehicles made at a rate of less than 1,000 a year.
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Most people are not buying 100k new tech vehicles made at a rate of less than 1,000 a year.
PeoplesElbow
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This could mean many different things, no less interesting.
farmingdale-observer.com
People replace their gas-powered cars every 12 years, while electric cars are renewed every 3 years, according to a study.
According to an S&P Global study, owners of combustion-powered cars tend to keep them for longer and longer, unlike electric vehicles, despite their generally higher cost. There are very specific reasons for this contrast. 3 times as many changes for electric cars S&P Global, a company...
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PeoplesElbow
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Looked into this several years back for power tool power, nothing really to do with EVs, but it costs too much and is a pain to retrofit.
$4500 is a ridiculous quote.
I wouldn’t be surprised if somebody hit him up for half of that based on permits, access, and the standard consideration of liability to an LLC for doing the work.
But a 50 amp connection isn’t that difficult and shouldn’t be anywhere near $4500.
glhs837
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Should be subtitled "I live way the hell out away from everybody, and that makes stuff cost more." Or maybe "I didn't do enough research and wasted a lot of time, but ended up paying getting it done promptly and at a reasonable cost".
Living rural but not checking with locals like hardware stores and such for recommendations was his first mistake, all his pain and suffering flowed out from that. It only costs a lot if you have a tough install or you just hire the first person with a pair of wire cutters on his belt.
Need your outlet run to the far side of your house? Finished basement? Want it buried under your 25 foot wide driveway? Only have 100amp service and load center that's at max capacity? Your are going to pay.
Need it three feet away inside the same room as your breaker panel? Already have 200 amp service and a load center with lots of capacity? Should be pretty cheap. Its like any other repair or upgrade. What you have going in matters.
That device is 'smart' and is more than just an outlet. It has to communicate with the vehicle and negotiate a charge. 6 AWG wire over any distance is not cheap.
After doing some research to make sure it was code, I tapped my dryer (in the garage) and installed my own wire and outlet to be used for a welder and eventually, a car charger. Total cost was under $250. 30 amp.
PeoplesElbow
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In good ole SOMD i had multiple no shows when they told me they would come by for a quote, a couple that didn't want to do such a small job because "it kept them from doing any other job that day so they would have to charge for the entire day" and one that wanted to take the siding off the outside of my house.
I've had extremely shitty luck with contractors around here. Roof replacement multiple no shows for quotes, same with HVAC.
That is definitely a problem in the tri county area, quite a few contractors think that they are doing you a favor! We took just about anything unless the customer had a history or was just an azzhole.
PeoplesElbow
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Sure is, I lost a friend over this BS, he posted on FB how bad friends treat him by not hiring him so I had to reply about how one that did was ignored, the job wasn't finished etc all because he didn't take his friends business seriously even though his friend paid the same as a stranger.
I've had pretty good luck.
Mattingly Electric for electric stuff.
Thompson Creek for windows/doors.
J. W. Windsor for A/C
Burchoil for oil burner
All have been very responsive, onsite in a day or so. Thompson Creek customer service is top notch.
Used Long for roof. Responsive, on time, but not thrilled with the end result.
I can second that for burch oil.
glhs837
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The charger is smart, but the outlet isn't. And that's what the cost is. Why you would pay a guy charging you upwards of $100 an hour to effectively hang the box on the wall? Let him do the box and hang the charger yourself. You need a tape measure a level and a screwdriver.
PeoplesElbow
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Same here, unfortunately that was after SMO wasted my time.
I don't do business with companies that don't honor contracts, BO is one!
PeoplesElbow
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Toyota Is Finally Making the EV the Car Market Sorely Needs
Toyota's second pure EV for America plays more to the brand's adventurous spirit while filling a notable hole in the current EV landscape.
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glhs837
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We'll see what we get. 260 is a silly low number, IMO. Add in 75mph highway driving to get where your going and I wonder what's left. I'm also curious about the weight. I also wonder if the radiant heating is comparable to a good heat pump system regarding energy loss. Seems more efficient to take heat from a place you are already making it and move it elsewhere. But I could be wrong.Toyota Is Finally Making the EV the Car Market Sorely Needs
Toyota's second pure EV for America plays more to the brand's adventurous spirit while filling a notable hole in the current EV landscape.
PeoplesElbow
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That's only 10 miles less than Teslas base model, with bigger more off-roadish tires. Toyota also tends to be very conservative, so it could be comparatively better than expected. I think the important thing is it doesn't look like a smoothed out turd with wheels.
Toyota tech is boring as hell though, always lagging or avoiding trends, but it does hold up over time and avoids the avocado green home furnishing dated feel.
glhs837
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I wouldn't recommend the Tesla base model for that very reason.
Range could be, that's why I said we'll see. Looks are of course subjective, I think this thing looks like every other mid size SUV out there. I always notice that when I get a Toyota rental, the lack of common features.
PeoplesElbow
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Toyota is really bad about leaving basic features off their base models, wanting you to pay more for a big package for things like intermittent wipers or cruise control. These things are actually pretty easy to add yourself, for example all you need for the intermittent wipers is the stalk that has the switch/circuitry inside it. The most frustrating thing is that if you have apps on your phone for things like remote start they pretty much force you into a subscription to keep using it. Unfortunately I think the world is headed this way in just about everything though.I wouldn't recommend the Tesla base model for that very reason.