Elon Musk forces old man to sell cars on the lawn of the White House

CPUSA

CPUSA

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StmarysCity79 said:
How's the stock market?

What are you gonna do with your .04 cents savings on eggs?

Hopefully sock it away to use when Elon cuts your Social Security
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1. Doing exactly what I voted for it to do...a massive correction to get rid of all of that monopoly money that was pumped into our economy, trying to collapse it before Trump's promised return to the White House...How's YOUR stocks doing? Oh that's right...you don't have any...

2. Watch it turn into $4.00 savings on eggs by the end of the month, you retarded Twunt...Just as was expected by Trump's base...Only an absolute retard was gonna fall for that "Day 1" Rhetoric...I bet you still fall for the ol' quarter behind the ear trick, dontcha, Einstein?

3. You really are a sad pathetic empty soul...I would pray for you, but it would be useless...and I pray for everyone...I will personally exclude you though...sad little Demon...
 
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StmarysCity79

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glhs837 said:
@StmarysCity79 you even gonna explain the supposed billions Trump has funneled to Musk? Or is that more crap you are just flinging against the wall?
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Read any newspaper.

He has allowed Spacex to take over many previous government contracts.

Why must you be educated about this obvious grift?

He is already receiving $38 billion in government contracts with more on the way

www.nytimes.com

Musk Is Positioned to Profit Off Billions in New Government Contracts

The boost in federal spending for SpaceX will come in part as a result of actions by President Trump and Elon Musk’s allies and employees who hold government positions. Supporters say he has the best technology.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
 
Kyle

Kyle

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StmarysCity79 said:
Read any newspaper.

He has allowed Spacex to take over many previous government contracts.

Why must you be educated about this obvious grift?

He is already receiving $38 billion in government contracts with more on the way

www.nytimes.com

Musk Is Positioned to Profit Off Billions in New Government Contracts

The boost in federal spending for SpaceX will come in part as a result of actions by President Trump and Elon Musk’s allies and employees who hold government positions. Supporters say he has the best technology.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
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You should use both your current screennames to talk to one another.

:snacks:
 
glhs837

glhs837

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StmarysCity79 said:
Read any newspaper.

He has allowed Spacex to take over many previous government contracts.

Why must you be educated about this obvious grift?

He is already receiving $38 billion in government contracts with more on the way

www.nytimes.com

Musk Is Positioned to Profit Off Billions in New Government Contracts

The boost in federal spending for SpaceX will come in part as a result of actions by President Trump and Elon Musk’s allies and employees who hold government positions. Supporters say he has the best technology.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
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I hate to tell you, but if you're getting your news about space, industry and contracts from newspapers, you're not using the best sources. Now your first post indicated that this funneling of billions has already happened. In which case again tell me which contracts.

Your second post links to an article that's behind a paywall but appears to say that these things could happen, which again anything could happen. Trump could pick me as a member of his cabinet any day now. Is it possible or probable not really. I'm going to assume that they talk about contracts like oh, I don't know the commercial crew contract that Boeing was giving twice the money for and failed to complete a single mission. Or possibly the SLS system which is years and years overdue ridiculously over budget and even if it goes all according to plan will cost us over $2 billion per launch.
 
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StmarysCity79

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glhs837 said:
I hate to tell you, but if you're getting your news about space, industry and contracts from newspapers, you're not using the best sources. Now your first post indicated that this funneling of billions has already happened. In which case again tell me which contracts.

Your second post links to an article that's behind a paywall but appears to say that these things could happen, which again anything could happen. Trump could pick me as a member of his cabinet any day now. Is it possible or probable not really. I'm going to assume that they talk about contracts like oh, I don't know the commercial crew contract that Boeing was giving twice the money for and failed to complete a single mission. Or possibly the SLS system which is years and years overdue ridiculously over budget and even if it goes all according to plan will cost us over $2 billion per launch.
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So you get your news from facebook links and Fox News and think you are somehow superior? You do know google exists so even if something is behind a paywall you can still research it no?

- SpaceX's biggest Pentagon contracts include the $733 million National Security Space Launch contract awarded in October to lift satellites into orbit
SpaceX's CEO Gwynne Shotwell has said the company has about $22 billion in government contracts. The vast majority of that, about $15 billion, is derived from NASA.

In 2023, the Pentagon awarded SpaceX a contract worth about $23 million to use Starlink to support military operations in Ukraine through mid-2024.
- Starlink has had contracts with Special Operations Command, the Air Force, Army and other parts of the Pentagon.

The total value of Musk's companies' contracts with the DoD is estimated to be in the billions of dollars, but the true figure cannot be determined since many of them are classified.

 
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glhs837

glhs837

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StmarysCity79 said:
So you get your news from facebook links and Fox News and think you are somehow superior? You do know google exists so even if something is behind a paywall you can still research it no?

- SpaceX's biggest Pentagon contracts include the $733 million National Security Space Launch contract awarded in October to lift satellites into orbit
SpaceX's CEO Gwynne Shotwell has said the company has about $22 billion in government contracts. The vast majority of that, about $15 billion, is derived from NASA.

In 2023, the Pentagon awarded SpaceX a contract worth about $23 million to use Starlink to support military operations in Ukraine through mid-2024.
- Starlink has had contracts with Special Operations Command, the Air Force, Army and other parts of the Pentagon.

The total value of Musk's companies' contracts with the DoD is estimated to be in the billions of dollars, but the true figure cannot be determined since many of them are classified.

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No, places like Arstechnica. You claimed that TRump funneled contracts, but every contract you mentioned was signed under Biden.

October 2024.
2023.

Not sure how Trump has a part to play in that. And if you know the launch business, you also know SpaceX wins these contracts based on merit. Lowest cost, most capability. In fact, the only reason ULA is still in the game, and that just barely, is that law requires that we have separate redundant launch systems in case one gets shut down for an extended time.

There is quite simply nobody in the world who can provide the service SpaceX does. Not for any amount of money.

Does anyone offer comms similar to what Starlink does? Tell me who. If you cannot, then that sort of explains those billions, doesn't it? I suppose they could go back to using Iridium and hundreds of times the cost and less than 100th of the bandwidth.

Can you point out any company with the capability to design bespoke govt spec satellites by the hundreds in less than five years and also launch for faster and for less money than anyone on earth? Who is that company?

You are reading headline written by people with no understanding of the launch market and where everyone is. So, name names, who can we turn to to provide these services? ULA? Boeing and Lockheed have floated selling that off as they cant make a dime. They blew off reusing rockets as a bad idea 15 years ago and have doubled down since then. And now they cannot compete. Same with US automakers and EVs.
 
Bare-ya-cuda

Bare-ya-cuda

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StmarysCity79 said:
So you get your news from facebook links and Fox News and think you are somehow superior? You do know google exists so even if something is behind a paywall you can still research it no?

- SpaceX's biggest Pentagon contracts include the $733 million National Security Space Launch contract awarded in October to lift satellites into orbit
SpaceX's CEO Gwynne Shotwell has said the company has about $22 billion in government contracts. The vast majority of that, about $15 billion, is derived from NASA.

In 2023, the Pentagon awarded SpaceX a contract worth about $23 million to use Starlink to support military operations in Ukraine through mid-2024.
- Starlink has had contracts with Special Operations Command, the Air Force, Army and other parts of the Pentagon.

The total value of Musk's companies' contracts with the DoD is estimated to be in the billions of dollars, but the true figure cannot be determined since many of them are classified.

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So contracts before trump was in office…
 
gary_webb

gary_webb

Damned glad to meet you
glhs837 said:
Can you point out any company with the capability to design bespoke govt spec satellites by the hundreds in less than five years and also launch for faster and for less money than anyone on earth? Who is that company?
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Maybe StHoChiMihnCity has a start up?

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glhs837

glhs837

Power with Control
StmarysCity79 said:
So you get your news from facebook links and Fox News and think you are somehow superior? You do know google exists so even if something is behind a paywall you can still research it no?

- SpaceX's biggest Pentagon contracts include the $733 million National Security Space Launch contract awarded in October to lift satellites into orbit
SpaceX's CEO Gwynne Shotwell has said the company has about $22 billion in government contracts. The vast majority of that, about $15 billion, is derived from NASA.

In 2023, the Pentagon awarded SpaceX a contract worth about $23 million to use Starlink to support military operations in Ukraine through mid-2024.
- Starlink has had contracts with Special Operations Command, the Air Force, Army and other parts of the Pentagon.

The total value of Musk's companies' contracts with the DoD is estimated to be in the billions of dollars, but the true figure cannot be determined since many of them are classified.

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Read what the industry people read, not what Reuters or Yahoo puts out.

spaceinsider.tech

ULA vs SpaceX - A Detailed Comparison in 2024

After SpaceX's Falcon 9 malfunction, can ULA compete in 2024’s space race? Explore their missions, launch capabilities, innovations and more.
spaceinsider.tech spaceinsider.tech


arstechnica.com

As preps continue, it’s looking more likely that NASA will fly the Artemis II mission

The core stage of NASA’s Space Launch System is now integrated with the rocket’s twin boosters.
arstechnica.com arstechnica.com
 
glhs837

glhs837

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Kyle said:
You're really asking a lot.
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I don't ask much. Learn or listen to those who do. :) Had a coworker ask me the other day after learning that I have two overseas trips to train folks coming up if I could just teach her instead and she could go. I told her if she had 40 years to learn, sure. :)
 
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StmarysCity79

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glhs837 said:
No, places like Arstechnica. You claimed that TRump funneled contracts, but every contract you mentioned was signed under Biden.

October 2024.
2023.

Not sure how Trump has a part to play in that. And if you know the launch business, you also know SpaceX wins these contracts based on merit. Lowest cost, most capability. In fact, the only reason ULA is still in the game, and that just barely, is that law requires that we have separate redundant launch systems in case one gets shut down for an extended time.

There is quite simply nobody in the world who can provide the service SpaceX does. Not for any amount of money.

Does anyone offer comms similar to what Starlink does? Tell me who. If you cannot, then that sort of explains those billions, doesn't it? I suppose they could go back to using Iridium and hundreds of times the cost and less than 100th of the bandwidth.

Can you point out any company with the capability to design bespoke govt spec satellites by the hundreds in less than five years and also launch for faster and for less money than anyone on earth? Who is that company?

You are reading headline written by people with no understanding of the launch market and where everyone is. So, name names, who can we turn to to provide these services? ULA? Boeing and Lockheed have floated selling that off as they cant make a dime. They blew off reusing rockets as a bad idea 15 years ago and have doubled down since then. And now they cannot compete. Same with US automakers and EVs.
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How many of his launches have failed so far?

These were existing contracts yes. Musk paid trump almost $300 million in campaign money to keep those contracts coming and to increase them into more Starlink and More Space X contracts and not for the idiotic DOGE initiative.

We shouldn't be privatizing NASA we should be putting money into our own R and D.

Look at what is happening with Tesla his stock in it and X is cratering because people don't want to work with him or buy his products. Why get further mixed up with a guy who regular uses drugs has 14 illegitimate kids and is clinically unstable?
 
glhs837

glhs837

Power with Control
StmarysCity79 said:
How many of his launches have failed so far?

These were existing contracts yes. Musk paid trump almost $300 million in campaign money to keep those contracts coming and to increase them into more Starlink and More Space X contracts and not for the idiotic DOGE initiative.

We shouldn't be privatizing NASA we should be putting money into our own R and D.

Look at what is happening with Tesla his stock in it and X is cratering because people don't want to work with him or buy his products. Why get further mixed up with a guy who regular uses drugs has 14 illegitimate kids and is clinically unstable?
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Which vehicle? Starship? The development program? Most have ended with one part or another blowing up. Maybe you don't understand a hardware rich test program and the benefits thereof.

Falcon? Very few. And only one has precluded the mission from being completed.

So, you have no proof of any of your assertions. If the contracts are won via open competition, which they are, why would he need to pay more?

NASA never builds anything. They pay others to build for them. And the case can and has been made that NASAs business is the science of space, not the business of space. Like NACA used to be before it became NASA. And if all of this is a mystery to you, you are not informed enough to engage in this debate.

Ah, the drugs and illegitimate kid argument... Who gives a rats ass about either if the companies are performing. The Model Y was the best selling car in the world for 2023 and 2024. Twitter has started showing a profit again, Tesla stock is up about 13% just yesterday and today. Again you seem to inhabit a fact free environment.
 
gary_webb

gary_webb

Damned glad to meet you
StmarysCity79 said:
Musk paid trump almost $300 million in campaign money to keep those contracts coming and to increase them into more Starlink and More Space X contracts and not for the idiotic DOGE initiative.
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You yourself guaranteed that Kamala would win the election. Are you saying Elon is smarter than you?
 
glhs837

glhs837

Power with Control
StmarysCity79 said:
How many of his launches have failed so far?

These were existing contracts yes. Musk paid trump almost $300 million in campaign money to keep those contracts coming and to increase them into more Starlink and More Space X contracts and not for the idiotic DOGE initiative.

We shouldn't be privatizing NASA we should be putting money into our own R and D.

Look at what is happening with Tesla his stock in it and X is cratering because people don't want to work with him or buy his products. Why get further mixed up with a guy who regular uses drugs has 14 illegitimate kids and is clinically unstable?
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Here's an article that talks about one of Spacex's competitors, the United Launch Alliance.

Note that just last year the head of that organization was talking about doing 25 launches or I might add 1/4 of the amount of launches SpaceX will pull off in a year, they have now scaled that back to less than half of that number. And nobody believes they can actually pull that off.

arstechnica.com

With Vulcan’s certification, Space Force is no longer solely reliant on SpaceX

US Space Force to United Launch Alliance: “I have been and always shall be your friend.”…
arstechnica.com arstechnica.com
 
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