Ending birthright citizenship

[vraiblonde]

The bots are losing their hivemind because Trump said he'd put a stop to childbirth tourism/border jumping, which they construe as violating whatever amendment says anyone born on US soil is a citizen.

He doesn't actually have to mess with that amendment at all. He can simply order that the bebe has a right to citizenship, but the parents and other relatives do not (because they don't; that's something the Democrats completely made up so they can flood our country with illegal aliens). The parents can either leave bebe here and go back home, or they can take bebe with them when they go back home - their choice.

Pretty simple stuff. So simple even a white liberal should be able to understand it, yet here we are.

 

[Kyle]

Maybe take it a step further...

 

[Grumpy]

Pretty simple stuff. So simple even a white liberal should be able to understand it, yet here we are.

 

[Clem72]

The bots are losing their hivemind because Trump said he'd put a stop to childbirth tourism/border jumping, which they construe as violating whatever amendment says anyone born on US soil is a citizen.

He doesn't actually have to mess with that amendment at all. He can simply order that the bebe has a right to citizenship, but the parents and other relatives do not (because they don't; that's something the Democrats completely made up so they can flood our country with illegal aliens). The parents can either leave bebe here and go back home, or they can take bebe with them when they go back home - their choice.

Pretty simple stuff. So simple even a white liberal should be able to understand it, yet here we are.

I have never really seen the issue with the childbirth citizenship. Why bother with the few hundred kiddos that are born 15 minutes after crossing the border or whatever and ignore the millions of regular illegals that pour over? Kids raised in the US aren't really an issue either, they will grow up and pay taxes and be normal. it's the adults who are fleeing because they are criminals or unable to be gainfully employed back home that are an issue.

 

[vraiblonde]

I have never really seen the issue with the childbirth citizenship.

The issue is when they think that means everyone in their whole family is entitled to residency. Because that's a thing. Juana and Carmen come over illegally at 9 months pregnancy, drop the kid, then insist they and their drug cartel bebe daddy and rapist brothers and everyone else is entitled to come and stay. The kid is just a key to the city.

 

[LightRoasted]

For your consideration ...

Simple logic 101 . . . . .

If one is not a US Citizen, or a Naturalized Citizen of the US, then any child born to such person, is not a US citizen. Therefore, any child born here to a person that entered this Nation illegally, (ie. without an application to enter to become a Naturalized Citizen) is not a US Citizen, and by all rights should be deported along with the parent or parents.

 

[ArkRescue]

For your consideration ...

Simple logic 101 . . . . .

If one is not a US Citizen, or a Naturalized Citizen of the US, then any child born to such person, is not a US citizen. Therefore, any child born here to a person that entered this Nation illegally, (ie. without an application to enter to become a Naturalized Citizen) is not a US Citizen, and by all rights should be deported along with the parent or parents.

I have never understood why they give rights of citizenship to babies born here to illegal parents - doesn't make ANY sense. What is WORSE is that the MOTHERS of said babies live here ILLEGALLY and file for BENEFITS for the child and get a PAID BY OUR GOVERNMENT for this baby WTH!!!???

 

[DaSDGuy]

Maybe establish a delivery room policy based on the flag on the door that declares that room is not part of the US. Any child born in that room is not a US citizen. Have that in every hospital in the US. Change the flag to US for US citizens.

 

[HemiHauler]

Would be unconstitutional. See the 14th Amendment and the and cases which have been adjudicated around it.

But his idiot supporters don’t quite grasp nuance like this.

 

[Ken King]

Would be unconstitutional. See the 14th Amendment and the and cases which have been adjudicated around it.

But his idiot supporters don’t quite grasp nuance like this.

What case law is there for automatic citizenship for offspring born on US soil of illegal immigrants?

 

[OccamsRazor]

Would be unconstitutional. See the 14th Amendment and the and cases which have been adjudicated around it.

But his idiot supporters don’t quite grasp nuance like this.

" the Fourteenth Amendment granted citizenship to all persons "born or naturalized in the United States," including formerly enslaved people, and provided all citizens with “equal protection under the laws,” extending the provisions of the Bill of Rights to the states. "

Please point to the part where it says that citizenship is granted for un-naturalized or illegal immigrant adults that are the parents. I'm not seeing it anywhere.

 

[vraiblonde]

Would be unconstitutional. See the 14th Amendment and the and cases which have been adjudicated around it.

But his idiot supporters don’t quite grasp nuance like this.

Show me the part where it says their foreign national parents or any other relatives get citizenship as well.

 

[Tech]

" the Fourteenth Amendment granted citizenship to all persons "born or naturalized in the United States," including formerly enslaved people, and provided all citizens with “equal protection under the laws,” extending the provisions of the Bill of Rights to the states. "

Please point to the part where it says that citizenship is granted for un-naturalized or illegal immigrant adults that are the parents. I'm not seeing it anywhere.

Natives were not considered citizens till 1924,

 

[HemiHauler]

" the Fourteenth Amendment granted citizenship to all persons "born or naturalized in the United States," including formerly enslaved people, and provided all citizens with “equal protection under the laws,” extending the provisions of the Bill of Rights to the states. "

Please point to the part where it says that citizenship is granted for un-naturalized or illegal immigrant adults that are the parents. I'm not seeing it anywhere.

It’s literally in the first sentence of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment.

 

[HemiHauler]

Show me the part where it says their foreign national parents or any other relatives get citizenship as well.

Never made that claim, Pookie.

 

[HemiHauler]

What case law is there for automatic citizenship for offspring born on US soil of illegal immigrants?

I do not believe that nuance has been challenged in any court.

 

[vraiblonde]

Never made that claim, Pookie.

Perhaps in the future you can learn to use the quote feature so we know who you're replying to. It's so simple even you Biden ass kissers should be able to do it.

 

[HemiHauler]

What case law is there for automatic citizenship for offspring born on US soil of illegal immigrants?

Further, originalists like Scalia believe very strongly that if a particular interpretation is standing law for a period of time, absent any contention, it is constitutional law.

 

[HemiHauler]

Perhaps in the future you can learn to use the quote feature so we know who you're replying to. It's so simple even you Biden ass kissers should be able to do it.

I replied to you, dumb-dumb.

 

[OccamsRazor]

Please point to the part where it says that citizenship is granted for un-naturalized or illegal immigrant adults that are the parents. I'm not seeing it anywhere.

It’s literally in the first sentence of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment.

14th Amendment, Section 1:
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Hmmm... still not seeing it