English-only, other anti-immigrant laws spread in US

[ylexot]

Fed up with government inaction on the hot-button issue of illegal immigration, a growing number of American towns are taking matters into their own hands adopting controversial and, some say, illegal legislation.

The only one I see as illegal is the flag flying law :shrug:

Other than that, If the feds aren't going to do their job, I'm glad that state/local gov is doing something about it.

 

[rack'm]

The only one I see as illegal is the flag flying law :shrug:

Other than that, If the feds aren't going to do their job, I'm glad that state/local gov is doing something about it.

I don't see an issue with it flying at a home, but over a building is a

 

[smoothmarine187]

Lets get all those dirty bastards out of here.......that way all those hard working americans that are on welfare can get their lazy asses out in the fields and pick lettuce.......etc.......etc.......

 

[ylexot]

Lets get all those dirty bastards out of here.......that way all those hard working americans that are on welfare can get their lazy asses out in the fields and pick lettuce.......etc.......etc.......

If all of the unemployed Americans went to work, there would still be a huge need for more laborers. I just want them to be here legally and documented.

 

[smoothmarine187]

If all of the unemployed Americans went to work, there would still be a huge need for more laborers. I just want them to be here legally and documented.

I agree with you on that part, but it will never happen, and most of them are to set in their ways to ever take the time to learn proper English.

 

[ylexot]

I agree with you on that part, but it will never happen, and most of them are to set in their ways to ever take the time to learn proper English.

I disagree. They are here because life is relatively easy on them. If it were made difficult (i.e. tougher to get a job, tougher to get a place to live, tougher to communicate, etc), they would not come here and either leave or try to be here legally. Currently, there is no incentive to be here legally or learn English.

 

[PatricksDad]

You want to stop the illegals from coming to America. It's really simple. Don't fine the employer employing them, put their arse in jail. 3-5 years for each illegal employee and $10,000.....not an and/or. If the employers are not hiring them, they have no reason to be here.

 

[Chrystee]

It is more safe for aliens to be here legally. I believe it is safer for them to know English, and be documented.

Let's not forget that even if YOU were born here, your ancestors were not, unless they are Native Americans.

 

[ylexot]

Let's not forget that even if YOU were born here, your ancestors were not, unless they are Native Americans.

Let's not forget that their ancestors weren't born here either.

 

[Vince]

The only one I see as illegal is the flag flying law :shrug:

Other than that, If the feds aren't going to do their job, I'm glad that state/local gov is doing something about it.

In Pahrump, a desert outpost in the Western state of Nevada with a growing immigrant population, the local council in November voted an English-only ordinance along with a measure barring residents from flying a foreign flag unless it is placed below an American flag.

Nothing wrong with that law. They can fly their foreign flag as long as it's below the American flag. This is not their foreign country. It's America and the American flag should be flown above any other flag.

 

[PatricksDad]

200 years ago this might have been a valid arguement. All of our ancestors were born in different countries, most of them were still documented to come to the new world.

About the Native Americans comment, I am a Native Americans...born in Marshalltown Iowa. That is Native

 

[ylexot]

Nothing wrong with that law. They can fly their foreign flag as long as it's below the American flag. This is not their foreign country. It's America and the American flag should be flown above any other flag.

I consider that a pretty clear-cut case of violation of free speech. :shrug:

 

[2ndAmendment]

I consider that a pretty clear-cut case of violation of free speech. :shrug:

Now there is another fine example of expansion of the meaning of "free speech" by the court system.

 

[aps45819]

Let's not forget that even if YOU were born here, your ancestors were not, unless they are Native Americans.

I was born here, I'm a native American but I'n not an indigenous American

 

[ylexot]

Now there is another fine example of expansion of the meaning of "free speech" by the court system.

Ok, if you don't want to call it "free speech", how about we just call it "freedom" and be done with it. Or would you be ok with banning the confederate flag, or how about a Glock flag, or an NRA bumper sticker? As far as I am concerned, they are all the same thing.

 

[Lenny]

I have to disagree with the headline writer and the narrowness of the article. The laws should also require native born people to speak English. I don't want to be "axed" a question, nor do I want to listen to "rap-speak" on the corners downtown.

 

[ylexot]

I have to disagree with the headline writer and the narrowness of the article. The laws should also require native born people to speak English. I don't want to be "axed" a question, nor do I want to listen to "rap-speak" on the corners downtown.

I believe that the law is saying that governmental business will be conducted in English only so that forms, etc do not have to be in multiple languages. I don't think that it means that speaking Spanish (or any other language) is against the law. If nothing else, it saves government $$$$.

 

[dustin]

If the employers are not hiring them, they have no reason to be here.

I think it would cost much less to hire additional people to police the employers using illegals than it would be to build a wall and then police the wall.

 

[dustin]

"They almost represent kind of a green light for discrimination against immigrants generally and against US citizens who may appear to be foreign," said Omar Jadwat, an attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union, which has filed lawsuits against the ordinances in many cities, including Hazleton, on grounds they are unconstitutional.

"The practicalities of how these ordinances work tend to encourage people to discriminate generally against folks who look foreign regardless of their immigration status," Jadwat said.

freaking ACLU...

So an ordinance is going to suddenly bring out racism in people? right.....

 

[2ndAmendment]

Ok, if you don't want to call it "free speech", how about we just call it "freedom" and be done with it. Or would you be ok with banning the confederate flag, or how about a Glock flag, or an NRA bumper sticker? As far as I am concerned, they are all the same thing.

There are regulations about the flying of flags in the U.S. and the proper display of Old Glory.

Flying a flag or a bumper sticker are not the same as speech. Speech and the flying of a flag and a bumper sticker are all expressions, but only one of the three is speech. The First Amendment says nothing of expression; it says "freedom of speech." Flags have been historically considered rallying points, hence the phrase "Rally 'round the flag."

I am a strict constructionist. There is far too much government, period. There should be no subsidies of any type including Social Security and Medicare. Do away with all of those and the illegals and many of the legal aliens will be headed back to where they came from. English was adopted as the official language of government under the Articles of Confederation despite history revisionists.