Exiting NAS PAX Gate 1

[Blister]

Order of importance for driving in SOMD:

1) Convenience for the driver
2) Convenience for the driver
3) Convenience for the driver
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57) Driving laws
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1002) Common sense

Most drivers in SOMD ain't from SOMD. By any accounting, there are more "Come Here's" than "From Here's.

No matter how much anyone wants to rant about it, the alleged bad driving, and other habits constantly cited on this site, are committed by the majority of relocated residents brought from other Counties, States, and Countries, since the majority of residents are not native born Marylanders.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/08/13/upshot/where-people-in-each-state-were-born.html#Maryland

http://www.city-data.com/county/St._Mary-s_County-MD.html

Since most of the whining comes from Pax River area drivers, think about where the influx of residents in this area comes from.

Top counties from which taxpayers relocated into this county between 2010 and 2011:
from Charles County, MD 0.74% ($49,657 average AGI)
from Calvert County, MD 0.73% ($48,643)
from Prince George's County, MD 0.26% ($40,856)
from Virginia Beach city, VA 0.23% ($48,957)
from Anne Arundel County, MD 0.20% ($74,195)
from San Diego County, CA 0.14% ($53,625)
from Duval County, FL 0.13% ($43,212)

MIGRATION INTO MARYLAND
The migration pattern in places like Maryland mirrors the growth of our federal bureaucracy, with residents arriving from all corners of the nation. About 7 percent of employed state natives work for the federal government, compared with 17 percent of employed migrants.

 

[BernieP]

1 thru 3 translation: "SCREW YOU.....HOORAY FOR ME!"
Common sense? Not 'round here.

amen, I swear there are people out there that enjoy blocking traffic, that seem to do what is "legal" make others suffer.
The good people who laid out Buse Rd made it two lanes wide. Theory being twice as many cars can get through the lights if they do so in parallel.
Yet it seems some people are not only determined to stay single file, they want to make sure everyone else does as well. So they stay in the right lane and when then stay left at the exit, blocking cars on the left from moving over to the outside lane. It's them saying, I have a right to all 3 lanes and I'm not going to let you in unless it's behind me.
Same thing in the morning, 2 lanes that turn into 4, common sense would say that the left most lane uses the 2 lanes left of the median, and the right most lane uses the 2 to the right of the median. Apparently that's not good enough for the people who line up past the turn lanes to be in that left lane. The move to the right when making the turn. Apparently that's their right under the law, but it defies common sense.

 

[spr1975wshs]

I'm definitely one of the Federally connected migrants. However, as I'm not fond of the above described antics, I try and be as courteous a driver as I can, plan my routes (including turns) and even use my directional signals on all turns and lane changes.

I also leave myself more than enough time to get where I'm going, so if some idjit really needs to be first at the next stop light, I'll let them in.

Oh, be warned, I obey yellow lights and don't run reds.

 

[SEABREEZE 1957]

I have never seen more effed up traffic management and road design than I have in SOMD. Ill timed lights, U-turns, no u-turns, having to get far left/right to do the u-turn across 3 lanes of traffic to go the way you need to go, having to 'merge' from a turn while entering a major thoroughfare to get into into a left/right turn lane to get to a business ~It's total madness.

 

[DEEKAYPEE8569]

I'm definitely one of the Federally connected migrants. However, as I'm not fond of the above described antics, I try and be as courteous a driver as I can, plan my routes (including turns) and even use my directional signals on all turns and lane changes.

I also leave myself more than enough time to get where I'm going, so if some idjit really needs to be first at the next stop light, I'll let them in.

Oh, be warned, I obey yellow lights and don't run reds.

I catch crap here, about having a dash camera, but some day, it will keep some ***thead from cutting me off in traffic, running me over.....and blaming ME.
Every night, I go home and replay the idiocy captured in my daily travels....illegal lane changes etc., and just shake my head thinking, 'Where'd these people get there driver's licenses?' 'A cereal box?' Froot Loops perhaps? SH*theads doesn't sound like an appetizing cereal name; never mind that it doesn't exist.

 

[glhs837]

I catch crap here, about having a dash camera, but some day, it will keep some ***thead from cutting me off in traffic, running me over.....and blaming ME.
Every night, I go home and replay the idiocy captured in my daily travels....illegal lane changes etc., and just shake my head thinking, 'Where'd these people get there driver's licenses?' 'A cereal box?' Froot Loops perhaps? SH*theads doesn't sound like an appetizing cereal name; never mind that it doesn't exist.

How many people think quality driving matters? And by that I mean putting as much time and attention into it as you would into other things that matter in your life. "It's just driving" I pressa da pedals, and turna da wheel and get places". It doesn't matter to %90 of the folks beyond that, and won't, until they are in a tight spot, and then it's too late. And we as a society not only accept such an attitude, we encourage it. "Hey, accidents happen". "Nobody's perfect", "Don't judge, you were not there". If you tell me that on a clear dry road, you swerved to avoid a deer and crashed into a tree, I don't need to be there. If you tell me you got t-boned, and the other person wasn't doing a silly fast speed, I don't need to be there.

Dee, I don't blame you at all for having a dash cam.

 

[stgislander]

How many people think quality driving matters? And by that I mean putting as much time and attention into it as you would into other things that matter in your life. "It's just driving" I pressa da pedals, and turna da wheel and get places". It doesn't matter to %90 of the folks beyond that, and won't, until they are in a tight spot, and then it's too late. And we as a society not only accept such an attitude, we encourage it. "Hey, accidents happen". "Nobody's perfect", "Don't judge, you were not there". If you tell me that on a clear dry road, you swerved to avoid a deer and crashed into a tree, I don't need to be there. If you tell me you got t-boned, and the other person wasn't doing a silly fast speed, I don't need to be there.

Dee, I don't blame you at all for having a dash cam.

That sounds like you are making fun of the way Italians speak. As an American of Italian descent, I am offended by this stereotype.









(No... I'm not really offended.)

 

[Restitution]

I have never seen more effed up traffic management and road design than I have in SOMD. Ill timed lights, U-turns, no u-turns, having to get far left/right to do the u-turn across 3 lanes of traffic to go the way you need to go, having to 'merge' from a turn while entering a major thoroughfare to get into into a left/right turn lane to get to a business ~It's total madness.

Hey Blister... Is this the fault of the 'migrants' too?

I suppose that county politics is rampant with out-of-towners and foreigners huh?

 

[kickstand]

Most drivers in SOMD ain't from SOMD. By any accounting, there are more "Come Here's" than "From Here's.

No matter how much anyone wants to rant about it, the alleged bad driving, and other habits constantly cited on this site, are committed by the majority of relocated residents brought from other Counties, States, and Countries, since the majority of residents are not native born Marylanders.

My whining tends to be more about the "from here's" that block the fire lanes at the grocery and beer stores and the one's that drive 5 miles below the posted speed limit on Indian Bridge Road....

 

[Hodr]

I catch crap here, about having a dash camera, but some day, it will keep some ***thead from cutting me off in traffic, running me over.....and blaming ME.
Every night, I go home and replay the idiocy captured in my daily travels....illegal lane changes etc., and just shake my head thinking, 'Where'd these people get there driver's licenses?' 'A cereal box?' Froot Loops perhaps? SH*theads doesn't sound like an appetizing cereal name; never mind that it doesn't exist.

Could post some clips of the most egregious acts anonymously to the Sheriff's twitter.

 

[DEEKAYPEE8569]

That sounds like you are making fun of the way Italians speak. As an American of Italian descent, I am offended by this stereotype.








(No... I'm not really offended.)

Remember https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFacWGBJ_cs ?

 

[DEEKAYPEE8569]

Could post some clips of the most egregious acts anonymously to the Sheriff's twitter.

I thought about doing that once. It's the "anonymously" part.....I'm sure they would figure out who it came from.....eventually.

 

[DEEKAYPEE8569]

How many people think quality driving matters? And by that I mean putting as much time and attention into it as you would into other things that matter in your life. "It's just driving" I pressa da pedals, and turna da wheel and get places". It doesn't matter to %90 of the folks beyond that, and won't, until they are in a tight spot, and then it's too late. And we as a society not only accept such an attitude, we encourage it. "Hey, accidents happen". "Nobody's perfect", "Don't judge, you were not there". If you tell me that on a clear dry road, you swerved to avoid a deer and crashed into a tree, I don't need to be there. If you tell me you got t-boned, and the other person wasn't doing a silly fast speed, I don't need to be there.

Dee, I don't blame you at all for having a dash cam.

I drive; as in, run around town; alone, so it would be my luck the someone who hit me would have flesh-n-blood witnesses; or they would be like the one I had a fender bender with in a parking lot; who was actually the one at fault, for driving after dusk with nary a light on. "ANYBODY SEE THAT?!" "ANYBODY SEE THAT?!".....sounded like a d*mn parrot. Unfortunately I didn't and still don't have a speaker deck cam.....yet.

 

[RoseRed]

I thought about doing that once. It's the "anonymously" part.....I'm sure they would figure out who it came from.....eventually.

Why is that a bad thing?

 

[DEEKAYPEE8569]

Why is that a bad thing?

I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm just saying it's not completely anonymous.

Has anyone ever posted dash cam video to the local/State constabulary? If so, was there any, 'Where did you?' 'How did you?' 'Why did you?'

 

[RoseRed]

I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm just saying it's not completely anonymous. Has anyone ever posted dash cam video to the local/State constabulary? If so, was there any, 'Where did you?' 'How did you?' 'Why did you?'

Not too long ago, some girls taped some guy that was driving like an asshat and turned it over to the sheriffs dept., who in turn, released it to the public. Plenty of other people commented on his total ashattery and he was busted.

 

[BernieP]

I have never seen more effed up traffic management and road design than I have in SOMD. Ill timed lights, U-turns, no u-turns, having to get far left/right to do the u-turn across 3 lanes of traffic to go the way you need to go, having to 'merge' from a turn while entering a major thoroughfare to get into into a left/right turn lane to get to a business ~It's total madness.

I think some of the situation with the roads is a result of the Smart Growth politics of Paris Glendenning. His administration opposed any road construction / improvements on the grounds that if you build it, they will come. Problem was, "they" were already here and more were coming. His politics on infrastructure didn't align with his politics on marketing for jobs. Mix in the support the SoMD region gets from the state, with a bit of NIMBY and you get, "a mess".
FDR Blvd should have been build long ago, if there was actually a comprehensive P L A N, it would have. But instead we get an extra mile of a second lane on Rt 4 heading to the bridge.

 

[DEEKAYPEE8569]

Not too long ago, some girls taped some guy that was driving like an asshat and turned it over to the sheriffs dept., who in turn, released it to the public. Plenty of other people commented on his total ashattery and he was busted.

Hmmm.....so, it does work to the benefit and safety of the public, as well as hopefully being a wake up call to other asshats.

 

[BernieP]

Hmmm.....so, it does work to the benefit and safety of the public, as well as hopefully being a wake up call to other asshats.

I would say BE CAREFUL, as big an asshat as you might think they are, recording them, without their permission, could lead to more severe penalty for you, then them.
From what I have gather from here, and from others, the police and courts seem to be less restrictive on evidence, how it's collected and used in court.
I've asked friends who worked in other jurisdictions, why they didn't write a citation for an accident when the evidence supported the eyewitness description of the cause.
The response was that they would have to testify in court to something they did not witness, so unless it was a DUI, they generally stayed away from writing a citation on top of a accident report.
The other thing you might find interesting is your video might actually hurt you when it comes to insurance. The reason drivers do some of the #### they do is because they operate on the belief that if you hit them, you are automatically "at fault" in the accident. Insurance companies don't like assuming all the liability, they will subrogate the claim. You will be given partial responsibility for the collision. If your evidence were to show you could have avoided the collision, your portion could go higher.

 

[stgislander]

Remember https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFacWGBJ_cs ?

Eh, Cumpari!