BOP
Well-Known Member
I've been saying the same thing for years now...ever since the Chair Force started talking about divesting.
F-35...getting more bad press lately.
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I've been saying the same thing for years now...ever since the Chair Force started talking about divesting.
glhs837
Power with Control
Tube Slug! Sorry couldn't help myself.
You just hush up and take me and my button pushing buddies to work
Dont make me blow some cad smoke up there 
You just hush up and take me and my button pushing buddies to work
P-8 & the P-3C are useless on finding subs.
Good thing the Navy still has the EP-3E and the sailors on the Catwalk.
glhs837
Power with Control
Pretty sure if the squid on the catwalk is seeing the sub, its too late, they are just surfacing to shoot survivors....
You made the comment that they would be "testing" the aircraft for 20 years. I was merely pointing out that we have been routinely testing in service aircraft for that long. You also made the comment that the P-8 was a repurposed airliner. I then pointed out that your revered P-3 was based on an airliner airframe. As far as your comment above, was the P-3 100% capable with regards to weapons when it entered service? No. It was able to do basic ordnance delivery, and the weapons systems evolved as the ordnance did.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
If you're going the wrong way, there is no such thing. You either stop and turn around or keep going the wrong way. :shrug:
To wit: DDG-1000 was effectively canned. CG(x) definitely canned. There are many other examples.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
V-22
Do you even know what that a/c does?
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Of course. Cools the car?
Sorry, A/C is short for Aircraft.
But, you are right as always.
a/c does cool my truck.
SG_Player1974
New Member
Kind of hard to turn around when there is a mass of people (International partners) right behind you...
Larry Gude
Strung Out
I know. I thought it was funny.
In any event, maybe y'all love the thing but it seems to my uneducated mind that it has been tough sledding for the thing. No?
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Kind of hard to turn around when there is a mass of people (International partners) right behind you...
They don't call it leadership because it's easy. :shrug:
Kind of hard to turn around when there is a mass of people (International partners) right behind you...
You must be new. I've been on easily a half dozen military development programs (I'm old...) that were heavily pegged on "international partners" that failed to get there. That factor is far weaker than you seem to think it is.
Midnightrider
Well-Known Member
Kind of hard to turn around when there is a mass of people (International partners) right behind you...
I think the bigger driver is the age of the fleets F-35 is replacing.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Larry Gude
Strung Out
See, I think this is one of those things that we've gotten wrong for generations; on the one hand, we got it right to constantly upgrade and rebuild airframes that were otherwise serviceable. On the other, cars and trucks where we just junk the whole thing and start new, over and over, instead of doing upgrades and so forth. The point being, better to have all those skilled mechanics and technicians and let the new parts and components support engineering and only change the basic stuff when there is a true leap instead of having what we have now; a huge lack of skilled mechanics replaced by a bunch of people on assembly lines that don't know jack #### past their immediate buttons.