Faith-healing parents charged in death of infant
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kom526
They call me ... Sarcasmo
That's why it's called "faith".
We don't know that. Maybe it WAS God's will that this child die. God allows people to die every single day, sometimes in horrific ways.
True story:
My ex-husband's great uncle fought a long battle with cancer - went on for several years. On the day he left the hospital after a checkup showing he was finally cancer-free, and pretty much giving him a clean bill of health, he was hit by a car and killed. As he was crossing the street to get to the hospital parking lot to go home.
So maybe when your number's up, your number's up and there's nothing anyone can do about it.
MadDogMarine
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There is more to the story:
Francis Carmen, Catherine Schaible's attorney, said that the couple's decision to forgo medical attention was not due to their religion, but because they thought Kent had a cold.
"The commonwealth wants to use [the Schaible's] religious beliefs as a self-fulfilling prophecy that, somehow, because they are different and because they exercise religious beliefs that are not necessarily in line with the majority of us," he said, "that is the cause of them failing to recognize that this child was as ill as he was."
Hoof, on behalf of Herbert Schaible, said that his client did everything in his power to care for his son in the days before he died - feeding him and giving him liquids.
"He cared for his child and thought his child was getting better," Hoof told reporters.
When asked why he did not call a doctor, he said: "He never said that he would not take the child to a doctor in his statement. He never said that."
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There has always been an underlying hatred by the govt for those who aren't obedient to them as god. Their arrogance considers themselves as all knowing and all powerful.
There is no other option than obedience.
That is why we have the First Amendment(supposedly?).
The only remaining question is
Why aren't doctors arrested and prosecuted for between 100,000 to 200,000 deaths caused annually ,directly related to the side effects of prescription drugs. ?
They are experts at falsely claiming it was due to "complications" from the underlying sickness.
We can tolerate 100,000+ deaths but not one from a Christian family???
Francis Carmen, Catherine Schaible's attorney, said that the couple's decision to forgo medical attention was not due to their religion, but because they thought Kent had a cold.
"The commonwealth wants to use [the Schaible's] religious beliefs as a self-fulfilling prophecy that, somehow, because they are different and because they exercise religious beliefs that are not necessarily in line with the majority of us," he said, "that is the cause of them failing to recognize that this child was as ill as he was."
Hoof, on behalf of Herbert Schaible, said that his client did everything in his power to care for his son in the days before he died - feeding him and giving him liquids.
"He cared for his child and thought his child was getting better," Hoof told reporters.
When asked why he did not call a doctor, he said: "He never said that he would not take the child to a doctor in his statement. He never said that."
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There has always been an underlying hatred by the govt for those who aren't obedient to them as god. Their arrogance considers themselves as all knowing and all powerful.
There is no other option than obedience.
That is why we have the First Amendment(supposedly?).
The only remaining question is
Why aren't doctors arrested and prosecuted for between 100,000 to 200,000 deaths caused annually ,directly related to the side effects of prescription drugs. ?
They are experts at falsely claiming it was due to "complications" from the underlying sickness.
We can tolerate 100,000+ deaths but not one from a Christian family???
There is a difference between actively causing harm and merely allowing nature (or God, if you will) to take it's course. Denying medical care is very different than murdering your child.
Cowgirl
Well-Known Member
So passively killing your child is ok but actively doing it is not?
That would be your opinion. And you are not the child's parent. You get to make decisions regarding your kids, and other parents get to make decisions regarding theirs.
Cowgirl
Well-Known Member
Well, my opinion is that passively killing a child is just as bad as actively doing it.
MadDogMarine
New Member
The govt has already stepped in by giving "blanket immunity" to the drug cartels
and allowing the complete denial of true preventative medicine(proven natural therapies) that boost natural immunity that would keep a lot of people from getting sick in the first place and labeling it all as "unorthodox medical treatment" They have a monopoly and do not hesitate to legally enforce it to the maximum.
If this family is guilty of any thing it may be "poor judgement"
Many families have lost loved ones due to not obtaining "medical treatment" early enough. Does that make them guilty of manslaughter??
The only thing this family did different is admitting they prayed over their child.
We can't have that, now can we.?
Toxick
Splat
It is your opinion that the child was "passively killed" at all.
In the parents opinion they were praying, and therefore they were "Actively" trying to save the kid.
OoberBoober
Awwwwooooooooo
So not feeding my kid because "God will provide" is ok?
Cowgirl
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Toxick
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kwillia
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Exactly... you make your own choices based on your opinions and your opinions do not necessarily agree with the opinions of others. So who gets to decide what is right? New York is now outlawing cupcakes at school functions, does that mean they now get to take your kids away because you baked them cupcakes one weekend?
MadDogMarine
New Member
Right. And we see how well that worked!
Why isn't your concern and focus on the 100,000+ being killed annually instead
of this one isolated incident?????
This family is not going to continue on in their "killing" like the drug cartels are.
Cowgirl
Well-Known Member
My point was if it's ok for parents to raise their children as they please, why is there a Social Services? In your opinion, do you think parents should be able to do whatever they want to their child? Where is the line drawn? Is there even a line at all?
kwillia
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From everything I've gathered over the years, Social Services tends to truly only intervene in extreme circumstances. In fact, they'll remove a kid from a perfectly healthy, happy foster environment just to return them to a parent that is fresh out of rehab and "promises" to behave and "promises" to spend the gov't dole on the kid and not booze or drugs. Social Services is not designed nor funded to show up at my house and check to see if my kid's cold is really a deadly Pneumonia virus.
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kwillia
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A few years back, Kain and I got into a knock down drag out hilacious fight on here because she is of the belief low-grade fevers should be eradicated and I'm of the believe that they can be the body's natural defense and should be monitored but are not necessarily grounds for panic.
Who gets to make the call as to who is right and who is wrong? Should it be legislated?
Who gets to make the call as to who is right and who is wrong? Should it be legislated?
MadDogMarine
New Member
Low grade fevers are a natural immune system response. The elevated temperature makes the bodies lymphatic system more fluid(like warming syrup makes it flow easier). The lymphatic system is what cleans the infection and contaminants out of the body and recognizes the infection and builds a natural defense. More and more doctors are recommending that children be allowed to "suffer" through their early ear infections instead of antibiotics for this very reason. Children with terrible recurring ear infections (to include loss of hearing) have been shown to have been placed on multiple antibiotics and the body never has an opportunity to build its own immunity.