Those thoughts pretty much sum my feelings up as well. They feed off each other like pirhanas after a trail of blood. Tearing along blindly, waiting for somene to say something intelligent, so they can effuse:
"There, I told you so! Uh-huh, Uh-huh!"
I have to agree, of the bunch only rraley and SmallTown have anything of value to say.
I have to wonder if either of these "enlightened ones" have progressed past 5th grade word association.
Good Lord, 2nd A, think of the calamity we would have to endure if we tried to explain the concepts concerning "Leap of Faith"?