So you think that someone becoming rich makes someone else poor? Zero sum game? CEOs making big money leads to increased cost of goods and decreased wages for everyone else, is that correct?
And this is to say nothing of the costs of illegals in terms of services we now say they are entitled to; education, health, etc.
a job Johnny wouldn't do for $10 becomes one he'd be happy to do for $20
If execs were creating jobs IN the US, that's one thing. They're not.
So corporate executives create no jobs in the US? Everything goes overseas? Their maids telecommute; the dealer they bought their Lexus from is in India; the caterer who does their parties flies in from Thailand? Nobody works on-site at his company? .
You also know a rich dude who employs any number of people, in his home AND in his business. He spreads that wealth around big time and we've seen him do it any number of times first hand. So I don't know how you can say that rich people don't create US jobs when you've actually seen them do it.
Allow me to rephrase; we would be better off if more jobs were created here at home. We would be better off if we better controlled immigration. We would be better off if executives were MORE motivated by the health of the nation rather than their stock options.
Yet you admit that the illegal is working and contributing, while Johnny gets those same benefits of education, health, etc, AND he gets a free check from the government as well.
And how do we do that? I don't know; I'm asking. How do we do that?
Worldwide, companies look for cheaper labor. As long as unskilled labor is in abundance AND cheaper overseas, I don't see an intelligent way out of it. If you make it so U.S. companies CANNOT use overseas labor - they will in all likelihood just pull up stakes all together. And they should.
We HAVE labor, here - but it ain't cheap. And it's looking to get more expensive. The way to compete - with labor here - is to automate and use much more skilled labor. That's oversimplifying a lot, but the only way to use the over-priced labor we have here is for their skills to exceed the ones overseas. They have to be more valuable, more productive workers. And they're just not.
I posted a link not long ago where it pointed to the Bureau of Labor Statistics' data showing that about half of all poor families have NO ONE working at all, so that minimum wage increases really wouldn't help them.
Now that itself is scary. Households of poor where NO ONE works. How is that happening? It ain't illegals - they at least know they're not getting handouts.
Monello and I just finished watching "Frontier House", where three modern families are tossed into the Montana wilderness for five months to live like settlers did in the late 1800s. To the extent that two of the families have to actually build their own home. All of them - including the young children - grow food, raise livestock, cook in a woodstove, carry water from the creek, put up food for the winter... It's as authentic as possible, and watching it makes you realize that we don't need all the crap we surround ourselves with these days.
Yet no one will admit that with the demise of Unions also has come with the demise of the middle class .My point is that illegal immigration is not to blame for American poverty. You, I, or anyone else can do the jobs that illegals have "taken" for the same money they make - we just don't want to. We say, "Oh, I can't live on that..." when what we mean is that we don't want to. Jose and Consuela manage to live on it just fine.