First Lady Rosalynn Carter

vraiblonde

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There were a lot of reasons Jimmah won.

For one, he started his campaign WAY earlier than anyone had done before. They all do that now, start a whole year early but it was unusual then.

For another - it’s unusual for a party to have the White House more than eight years lately. There’s typically a change of hands.

There was also the oil embargo and inflation. It was bad enough they concocted the misery index which was used against Carter, by Reagan.

And one more thing. With all that, it was STILL CLOSE. Maybe people did vote against Ford for pardoning Nixon but Ford also was a very uncharismatic leader. And it was still close.

But the fact remains that Carter won the Democrat primary, and you and I both know it's because the backroom guys decided that's what it should be. Pile on the money, make deals with the media, promote promote promote, and the American public will buy your product.

So why him? Why would a Birch Bayh or Milt Shapp get knocked out in the primary? Why Jimmy and not Jerry Brown?

That's the stuff that interests me - why would the national committee and deal makers promote this guy and not that guy?
 

phreddyp

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He was highly naive - the story Sam posted is just an example, and the Mariel boatlift is another. You'd think being a Governor and dealing with the shitbags he'd have been more savvy and sophisticated, but he was always astounded that other world leaders weren't a genial nice guy with good intentions like him.
He was way more than naive, he was spineless and clueless, he still has Iranian boot prints all over his back. He is the reason the middle east is still a problem for us.
 

SamSpade

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But the fact remains that Carter won the Democrat primary, and you and I both know it's because the backroom guys decided that's what it should be. Pile on the money, make deals with the media, promote promote promote, and the American public will buy your product.
See, I have no problem with this. The party apparatus SHOULD choose its spokesman. That’s how parties work. The whole idea of “primaries” is kind of - ridiculous. Registered voters are not the correct means of deciding who represents the party’s platform. They typically don’t even KNOW the platform.

If I were to start my own party, I sure wouldn’t allow persons whose only allegiance to the party is a tick on a form. I’d keep it to the faithful. Delegates.

I don’t know why they picked Carter. They had Kennedy, Humphrey, Brown - others with much greater name recognition. I remember that he appeared a lot in the press, TV, Playboy - he was popular.

It’s the only thing I can come up with.
 

phreddyp

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See, I have no problem with this. The party apparatus SHOULD choose its spokesman. That’s how parties work. The whole idea of “primaries” is kind of - ridiculous. Registered voters are not the correct means of deciding who represents the party’s platform. They typically don’t even KNOW the platform.

If I were to start my own party, I sure wouldn’t allow persons whose only allegiance to the party is a tick on a form. I’d keep it to the faithful. Delegates.

I don’t know why they picked Carter. They had Kennedy, Humphrey, Brown - others with much greater name recognition. I remember that he appeared a lot in the press, TV, Playboy - he was popular.

It’s the only thing I can come up with.
I believe that people felt that he could be trusted and the party recognized that , actually I still do. But electing a commander in chief requires more than just trust. Plus Ford was a part of the Warren commission and we pretty much know that the commissions conclusion was BS.
 

herb749

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But the fact remains that Carter won the Democrat primary, and you and I both know it's because the backroom guys decided that's what it should be. Pile on the money, make deals with the media, promote promote promote, and the American public will buy your product.

So why him? Why would a Birch Bayh or Milt Shapp get knocked out in the primary? Why Jimmy and not Jerry Brown?

That's the stuff that interests me - why would the national committee and deal makers promote this guy and not that guy?


Jerry Brown was a kook and everyone knew it. Carter had no issues and was a nice guy. Kennedy knew his past would be brought out.
 

Hijinx

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I don't think Biden is a bad President. In fact i don't think of him as president at all. He merely has the title. I still believe Obama was and IS the worst President. He divided this nation like no other President before him, and he is still doing it, He worked for the destruction of America and he still might do it in his third term before it's over. And I still say his Birth Certificate is Bullsht.
 
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Grumpy

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I don't think Biden is a bad President. In fact i don't think of him as president at all. He merely has the title. I still believe Obama was and IS the worst President. He divided this nation like no other President before him, and he is still doing it, He worked for the destruction of America and he still might do it in his third term before it's over. And I still say his Birth Certificate is Bullsht.
All presidents before him got out of Dodge after their Presidency was done, but not Obama...Whats up with that?
 

vraiblonde

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I don't think Biden is a bad President. In fact i don't think of him as president at all. He merely has the title. I still believe Obama was and IS the worst President. He divided this nation like no other President before him, and he is still doing it, He worked for the destruction of America and he still might do it in his third term before it's over. And I still say his Birth Certificate is Bullsht.

See, I'm the opposite - if anyone could make Obama look good, it's Joe Biden.
 

PeoplesElbow

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I believe that people felt that he could be trusted and the party recognized that , actually I still do. But electing a commander in chief requires more than just trust. Plus Ford was a part of the Warren commission and we pretty much know that the commissions conclusion was BS.
Being recent to the Watergate scandal is what got him elected.
 

Dakota

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Perhaps after the funeral they can fly CON, Air over to Gitmo. :biggrin:
 

Dakota

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^ Jimmy is in bad shape - he will be gone before Christmas.

When they wheeled him in, his mouth was gaped open but the camera quickly turned away. I'm not so sure he knows what is going on. In fact, I think he slept the entire time.

Strange bedfellows in that front row. :eyebrow:
 
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StmarysCity79

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Well he must be astonished by the Democrat Party as well, because they do that on a daily basis. And yet he didn't appear to be. Maybe it was the Alzheimers.

Anyway, this is what happens when you allow Democrats to vote - they make the worst decision available to them. Every. Single. Time.

But the Democrat Party - the people in charge, not the randos on the street - knew Carter wasn't a world leader, and yet they put him up anyway. It's not like there weren't other (better) choices. So there's a reason for that. Candidates don't just decide to run for office and create an organic following - they are carefully vetted and chosen by the Party leaders, then groomed and promoted. They know who the nominee will be long before the primary. It's always been that way for both parties except in the case of Trump - they didn't see that one coming, despite their best efforts to steer and manipulate.

"They" said Ford lost because he pardoned Nixon, but that's bullshit. The American public doesn't have that type of attention span, they probably barely remembered Nixon was president. What really happened is that the media fawned on Jimmah and painted him as folksy everyman, and that is what appealed to the public. And even then it wasn't by a big margin.

They did the same with Biden, but it couldn't hold up to scrutiny in the information age. Good ol' Joe....the lying, pedo, groper, corrupt, crooked, schemer, incompetent....who can't relate to that?


Say's the persons who's party cant even agree on a leader other than a keebler elf who's son monitors his porn intake, claims to have no bank accounts and believe the bible is literal truth.

Get bent.
 

Dakota

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I'm skimming the video - shesh - Biden is also asleep with his mouth gaped open. :rolleyes:

45-49 min mark.




I am surprised some of these people haven't burst into flames. :rolleyes:
 
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