Flat paint in the bathroom

pixiegirl

Cleopatra Jones
DoWhat said:
You should just move again.

I would be embarrased to sell a house that needed stuff like this done. It's not all that expensive, a little time consuming maybe. Even if I knew I'd never see the people again in my life I'd still be embarrassed.
 

pixiegirl

Cleopatra Jones
Pandora said:
She is the only forum member that I know that has lived in every county in the tri-county area. There was Charles, St. Mary's and Calvert.

:lmao:

:lmao: I just said that the other day to B. All 3 counties in 1 year at that! :jameo:
 

Nickel

curiouser and curiouser
Pandora said:
I have even used Satin on ceilings.
We used satin on the ceilings in the rooms we repainted as well. :yay: I prefer satin to semi-gloss, there's no sheen, and our walls have a slightly textured effect, so it looks really nice. If we're able to stay here for 7 years (crossing fingers) I'd like to put new floors in also, to step it above the other homes in the neighborhood. :yay:
 

crabcake

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pixiegirl said:
We got an HMS warranty and I need to look through the paperwork to see if this is covered.
More than likely, it'll cover the cause of the water damage (e.g., fix/replace leaky pipe) but it typically doesn't cover secondary damage (e.g., damaged floors, walls, etc). It's a great warranty though, b/c typically the secondary damage is DIY-able. :yay:
 

Suz

33 yrs & we r still n luv
IMO--it's not the 'finish' used on the walls-satin or flat-it's the paint QUALITY.
 

Nickel

curiouser and curiouser
Suz' said:
IMO--it's not the 'finish' used on the walls-satin or flat-it's the paint QUALITY.
In reality, satin paint is easier to clean than flat paint, so if you were to attempt to clean flat paint, I can imagine the vigorous scrubbing would affect the appearance. Scratch that, I know vigorous scrubbing would affect the appearance b/c there's a spot in our living room where the paint has rubbed off...it's a brand new house and we've literally been here a month.
 
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crabcake

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Suz' said:
IMO--it's not the 'finish' used on the walls-satin or flat-it's the paint QUALITY.
Wrong! Quality is important; however, I thought it was a standard rule that you should never use flat paint in a bathroom because 1) it's porous; and 2) the damage that can slowly occur due to the penetration of moisture. Even with a fan and/or window, flat paint in a bathroom is like a sponge, and where do you think that moisture is gonna go when it's absorbed? Due to the heat from steam/warm water temps, it can lead to the growth of mold/mildew in places you won't see until it's damage warrants full replacement of drywall, studs, flooring, etc.

Unless something has changed in the wonderful world of paint, I thought a minimum of semi-gloss was recommended for rooms with high moisture unless some sort of barrier or water-resistant primer was used underneath.
 

Suz

33 yrs & we r still n luv
crabcake said:
Wrong! Quality is important; however, I thought it was a standard rule that you should never use flat paint in a bathroom because 1) it's porous; and 2) the damage that can slowly occur due to the penetration of moisture. Even with a fan and/or window, flat paint in a bathroom is like a sponge, and where do you think that moisture is gonna go when it's absorbed? Due to the heat from steam/warm water temps, it can lead to the growth of mold/mildew in places you won't see until it's damage warrants full replacement of drywall, studs, flooring, etc.

Unless something has changed in the wonderful world of paint, I thought a minimum of semi-gloss was recommended for rooms with high moisture unless some sort of barrier or water-resistant primer was used underneath.
:rolleyes:
I was referring to in general. Not just for a bathroom. What you said is correct though.:yay:
 

pixiegirl

Cleopatra Jones
Ok here's the deal. The floor is out. The 1/2 inch plywood is about half way up. Brent had to take off the trim and is taking the pot and sink/cabinet out completely to lay new flooring. Since the flooring will be done correctly the trim had to come out and will be about 1/2 inch lower then it was. I have really no option but to paint. I looked in the shed (they left the paint) to see what the top was painted with and she used satin. Flat on bottom, satin on top. I think she just got whatever screw ups they sell cheap??? Anyway, that being said. I can leave the top yes? Tape off the border and paint on down? I don't have to use a primer or anything do I? I'll be painting it a very similar blue.

The best part is we had a good sized peice of linoleum from our house in Indian Head (he bought way too much) that we were going to use and would have gone ok but now since we have the ceramic tile I bought for the wall we're going to put that down instead!
 

Ponytail

New Member
Wash the walls really good with ammonia and water and you should be fine to paint without a primer.

For the tiles, normally, wall tiles are about half the thickness of floor tiles and are usually high gloss finishes which is not good to use in a bathroom, where the floor is commonly wet, creating a slicker than snot situation.

The thinner tiles MAY crack when used on the floor.
 

crabcake

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Ponytail said:
Wash the walls really good with ammonia and water and you should be fine to paint without a primer.
There's also a product you can buy and mix with water to wash the walls ... tri-something ... you can get it at Lowes. We used it to wash the walls when we repainted the house in AZ and it was great stuff! :yay:

Pix, just get a regular sponge mop to do it ... sooooo much easier than doing it by hand. :yay:
 

pixiegirl

Cleopatra Jones
Ponytail said:
Wash the walls really good with ammonia and water and you should be fine to paint without a primer.

For the tiles, normally, wall tiles are about half the thickness of floor tiles and are usually high gloss finishes which is not good to use in a bathroom, where the floor is commonly wet, creating a slicker than snot situation.

The thinner tiles MAY crack when used on the floor.

I got floor tiles to do the walls. :lol: I didn't know the difference and liked the pattern on the floor ones.

Wash the walls. Got it. I was also planning to "rough" them up a little with sand paper. Good idea or no?
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
pixiegirl said:
I got floor tiles to do the walls. :lol: I didn't know the difference and liked the pattern on the floor ones.

Wash the walls. Got it. I was also planning to "rough" them up a little with sand paper. Good idea or no?
The wall wash is TSP, tri sodium phosphate. Nasty stuff, so make sure your youngun's are well away, preferably not in the house. Lowes sells a non-TSP product that's safer, but read the box.

This stuff cuts any grease on the walls. You can't see it but it's there, and will affect how well the paint adheres. There's no need to use the sandpaper.

Going from flat to semi should give you pretty good results.
 

Nickel

curiouser and curiouser
How lovely.

I just washed the baseboards in the kitchen. Didn't realize how sensitive that flat paint would be. The parts of the wall that I accidentally brushed against with the rag are now missing paint. :ohwell:
 
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