Food Stamp abuse is rampant. Especially at Crab Knockers

SoMDGirl42

Well-Known Member
I find it humorous that the food stamps card used to be called an "Independence" card. I don't know if it is still called that or not. What a joke!

Speaking of using the system, I know of people who get VA disability checks who are not disabled. They work the exact same job they worked when they were active duty. Such a scam. I am planning on reporting them once I can figure out where since it is dealing with the VA specifically. That in itself is can be a headache. How dare they take money when there are real disabled veterans missing arms, legs, etc.

I don't know a retired verteran that doesn't have some type of disability rating. Most are around 30-50%. Some are in the 90% and are more abled than I am.
 

FED_UP

Well-Known Member
I don't know a retired verteran that doesn't have some type of disability rating. Most are around 30-50%. Some are in the 90% and are more abled than I am.

If could see the list of things that can be claimed you would be surprised, it does not have to be a visible physical trait.
 

GW8345

Not White House Approved
For the retired veterans that have a disability rating from the VA, all that does is allows a portion of their retirement check to be tax free. If they are 90% disabled, then 90% of their retirement check is not taxable so the only extra money that they would get whatever they would have paid in taxes. Also, a lot of disability stuff is not visible, such as hearing, back and knee problems so while they are able to walk and work fine they can’t do some of the other physical stuff you might be able to do. And in order to get a disability rating you have to go through the VA and they have to review your military medical record, if it was not documents in the persons medical record while they were on active duty they will not get a rating for it.

And I’m a retired veteran with not disability rating and I know a lot of other veterans what are retired and never went through the VA to get disability. Doesn’t mean we don’t have medical issues related to our military service, just means we don’t trust the VA and don’t want to go through the bureaucratic hassle for a few extra dollars in our retirement check.

You want to see what Obamacare is going to be like when fully implemented, look at all the issues the VA has right now.
 

bulldog

New Member
For the retired veterans that have a disability rating from the VA, all that does is allows a portion of their retirement check to be tax free. If they are 90% disabled, then 90% of their retirement check is not taxable so the only extra money that they would get whatever they would have paid in taxes. Also, a lot of disability stuff is not visible, such as hearing, back and knee problems so while they are able to walk and work fine they can’t do some of the other physical stuff you might be able to do. And in order to get a disability rating you have to go through the VA and they have to review your military medical record, if it was not documents in the persons medical record while they were on active duty they will not get a rating for it.

And I’m a retired veteran with not disability rating and I know a lot of other veterans what are retired and never went through the VA to get disability. Doesn’t mean we don’t have medical issues related to our military service, just means we don’t trust the VA and don’t want to go through the bureaucratic hassle for a few extra dollars in our retirement check.

You want to see what Obamacare is going to be like when fully implemented, look at all the issues the VA has right now.

I don't think that this is 100% accurate. Any VA disability between 1 and 49% is, as you say, a simple tax shelter. If someone in that category is receiving $500.00 in disability from the VA, their retirement check is an equal amount *short* every month and therefore the only advantage is that they don't get taxed on that $500.00. However, I'm almost positive that 50% disability and above, you get your disability payment WITHOUT an equal amount being cut from your retirement pay.
 

mamatutu

mama to two
The real question: Is there ANYTHING you DO know?

here is the SNAP website...why don't you trying reading, learning and educating yourself? http://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/supplemental-nutrition-assistance-program-snap

I know about a lot of things. I do know you are mean and nasty, as usual. Did it ever occur to you that I have no interest in understanding the welfare system, SNAP, etc. I don't use it, I just pay for it. And, that pisses me off enough. Me knowing about it will change nothing. Have a fab day!

Thanks to the members who offered info and explanation since I choose to be a dummy about welfare. :lol:
 

inkah

Active Member
, should child support be spent on takeout seafood.

are you chittin me? not feeding your kid blue crab around here is pretty much abusive

and wtf do you need to regulate what child support is spent on? Good grief. Did you have kids? Did you ever get them anything other than essentials for survival?
Maybe the kid had a birthday party? The idea that a child doesn't deserve a treat sometimes b/c they have parents who are ash-holes is disgusting.

Life for my family was hell when we needed help. I lived frugally and survived with what little help we got. And every once in a great while, I bought my kid a lobster. Just because he friggin loved them and it made him happy. No other reason in the world. But don't you worry - they wouldn't let us get them steamed - we took it home and cooked it ourselves. Oblah-ma is making sure I pay it all back nowadays, so don't you worry about that either.
 

sm8

Active Member
, however, should child support be spent on takeout seafood, or supporting the child for which it was intended?

Technically it is food and food is a necessity, as long as all other necessities are being met then no foul. That being said I have had that thought myself quite often but usually more when I hear of people using child support for stuff like cigarettes, beer or getting their hair done. I have to tell myself not to be so judgmental, unless I walked a mile in their shoes I would never understand where they are coming from.
 

PrchJrkr

Long Haired Country Boy
Ad Free Experience
Patron
are you chittin me? not feeding your kid blue crab around here is pretty much abusive

and wtf do you need to regulate what child support is spent on? Good grief. Did you have kids? Did you ever get them anything other than essentials for survival?
Maybe the kid had a birthday party? The idea that a child doesn't deserve a treat sometimes b/c they have parents who are ash-holes is disgusting.

Life for my family was hell when we needed help. I lived frugally and survived with what little help we got. And every once in a great while, I bought my kid a lobster. Just because he friggin loved them and it made him happy. No other reason in the world. But don't you worry - they wouldn't let us get them steamed - we took it home and cooked it ourselves. Oblah-ma is making sure I pay it all back nowadays, so don't you worry about that either.

1. I've got kids and even during the tough times (unemployment, under employment) I made sure they were well fed, clothed, and had a happy childhood.

2. Good on ya. Kids need to be happy. Thankfully ring pops and YooHoo weren't all that expensive.

3. If you ever build a swing out of a milk crate for your little one, don't use rope, splurge on the chain. :jameo::crazy::barf::doh: Not a pretty site.
 

Hannibal

Active Member
Technically it is food and food is a necessity, as long as all other necessities are being met then no foul. That being said I have had that thought myself quite often but usually more when I hear of people using child support for stuff like cigarettes, beer or getting their hair done. I have to tell myself not to be so judgmental, unless I walked a mile in their shoes I would never understand where they are coming from.

I don't necessarly agree with the first part of your statement. Food is a necessity ofcourse. But there is a difference between filet mignon and a whole wheat turkey sandwhich. And I understand the importance of assuring that all other needs are met - but as a person who pays into the system, I am not sure I much approve of someone requesting assistance and having enough money above "meeting their needs" to spend "gifted" money on high end product. To me, that indicates they are being provided too much.

And don't get me wrong, everyone should get the occasional splurge. As you said, I am not walking in their shoes. But I see far too many people using this program when they are buying frivilous things. To me, that indicates their "needs" aren't quite as unfulfilled as advertised.
 

sm8

Active Member
I don't necessarly agree with the first part of your statement. Food is a necessity ofcourse. But there is a difference between filet mignon and a whole wheat turkey sandwhich. And I understand the importance of assuring that all other needs are met - but as a person who pays into the system, I am not sure I much approve of someone requesting assistance and having enough money above "meeting their needs" to spend "gifted" money on high end product. To me, that indicates they are being provided too much.

And don't get me wrong, everyone should get the occasional splurge. As you said, I am not walking in their shoes. But I see far too many people using this program when they are buying frivilous things. To me, that indicates their "needs" aren't quite as unfulfilled as advertised.

I was referring to child support. If the one parent can fully provide all of the necessities I see no problem with them using child support money for frivolous items to make life more fun.

Edited to add: In my opinion just because one parent can afford to provide everything required to meet the family needs does not absolve the other parent of any obligation financial or otherwise.
 
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mAlice

professional daydreamer
I was referring to child support. If the one parent can fully provide all of the necessities I see no problem with them using child support money for frivolous items to make life more fun.

Edited to add: In my opinion just because one parent can afford to provide everything required to meet the family needs does not absolve the other parent of any obligation financial or otherwise.

I disagree. If the custodial parent can afford to care for the child without the assistance of child support, then any and all child support should be put into savings for the childs education and/or future.
 

luvmygdaughters

Well-Known Member
I have always said the welfare system needs to be audited by an independent contractor. The government auditing its self is like the fox guarding the hen house. I've been approached by people wanting to sell the card for cash. Its an inept system run by idiots who keep selling the same old story. You're to dumb to take care of yourself and your kids and you will never amount to anything, so, we're going to take care of you. I was just telling my sister the other day, why don't we all quit our jobs and let the government take care of us.
 

PrchJrkr

Long Haired Country Boy
Ad Free Experience
Patron
I disagree. If the custodial parent can afford to care for the child without the assistance of child support, then any and all child support should be put into savings for the childs education and/or future.

Ed Zachary!

I would go further by saying there should be an audit system in place to track the account.
 

zar

Theist
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