Free Will vs. Predestination

vraiblonde

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Finally, something worthwhile out of you. :smack:

I, personally, don't believe in God but I do believe in a form of predestination. That is, you are predestined to a certain path, unless you let your free will get in the way and derail yourself. For example:

Denise is a very talented artist - always has been and this is something she was born with. She is predestined to use her gift to earn a living or just simply make the world a better place. Unfortunately, Denise made a series of poor choices in her early adulthood, and now she is a single mother of 6, selling her body to support her crack habit and the only thing she draws now is flies.

Does that make sense?
 

slotted

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vraiblonde said:
Finally, something worthwhile out of you. :smack:

I, personally, don't believe in God but I do believe in a form of predestination. That is, you are predestined to a certain path, unless you let your free will get in the way and derail yourself. For example:

Denise is a very talented artist - always has been and this is something she was born with. She is predestined to use her gift to earn a living or just simply make the world a better place. Unfortunately, Denise made a series of poor choices in her early adulthood, and now she is a single mother of 6, selling her body to support her crack habit and the only thing she draws now is flies.

Does that make sense?
Somewhat, but I'm more interested in a Christian's perspective. Your above conclusion, while logical, offers no proof either way. However, a Christian, with the inerrant Word of God, can surely prove to me one way or the other.
 

vraiblonde

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And, PS, I know your post was directed at religious types so whatever they answer, you can tell them they're wrong. But it's an interesting topic.


:razz:
 

vraiblonde

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slotted said:
Somewhat, but I'm more interested in a Christian's perspective. Your above conclusion, while logical, offers no proof either way. However, a Christian, with the inerrant Word of God, can surely prove to me one way or the other.
HAH! I almost beat you to it. :neener:
 
vraiblonde said:
HAH! I almost beat you to it. :neener:
:lol: Slotted, I suggest you have Vrai change your username to "theSeeker" because I don't think I've ever seen anyone wanting to be given a reason to "believe" as much as you seem to want it. :wink:
 

aps45819

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You sure do spend a lot of time trying to disprove christianity. Here's a clue, it's called faith and doesn't require proof.

I'll bet you have faith and just don't know it.
 

slotted

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Fred Hoeck said:
Free Will
Fred Hoeck can't possibly be the only Christian on here with a view on this, can he?


Fred,
What happens to a young unregenerate child when he dies. Let's go with one that is young enough to not understand what sin is. Does this child go to heaven or hell. Do you believe that there is an age of accountability, which the Bible is silent on?
 

vraiblonde

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slotted said:
Fred Hoeck can't possibly be the only Christian on here with a view on this, can he?
When you play "gotcha" with people and ask them questions so that you can go "HA!" and tell them they're wrong, they will stop conversing with you.

:shrug:
 

slotted

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vraiblonde said:
When you play "gotcha" with people and ask them questions so that you can go "HA!" and tell them they're wrong, they will stop conversing with you.

:shrug:
Can't seem to shut you up though. :blahblah:
 

vraiblonde

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slotted said:
Can't seem to shut you up though.
That's because I'm not particularly offended by you. I have no religion, so your barbs don't affect me. You'll have to try a different tack. :jet:
 

Vince

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slotted said:
Somewhat, but I'm more interested in a Christian's perspective. Your above conclusion, while logical, offers no proof either way. However, a Christian, with the inerrant Word of God, can surely prove to me one way or the other.
That's the good part. I don't have to prove anything. I believe in God and don't have to say anything or do anything to prove his exsistence. :shrug:
 
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