Gay cupcakes mandatory!

[JoeRider]

i dont really care about this issue one way or the other, but i cant for the life of me understadn how making cupcakes for a customer exposes his daughters to any type of sexual activity.


a rainbow is not inherently homosexual.

But the organization is at least presented as such and associating his business with an organization whose activities are perceived to be based on sexual activity. Even though that might not be the organizations charter, the business owner "in a reasonable" mind set can protect his daughter from endorsing the organization. It would be a different case if he had signs up saying "We only serve straight people".


Considering that the matter has become very public by the Gay Organization instead of handled in a low key matter, they will likely hurt their case if it gets in to the legal system. Lower courts really like people to work things out and it is unlikely that the gay organization was harmed, even if the owner was wrong.

 

[thatguy]

But the organization is at least presented as such and associating his business with an organization whose activities are perceived to be based on sexual activity. Even though that might not be the organizations charter, the business owner "in a reasonable" mind set can protect his daughter from endorsing the organization. It would be a different case if he had signs up saying "We only serve straight people".


Considering that the matter has become very public by the Gay Organization instead of handled in a low key matter, they will likely hurt their case if it gets in to the legal system. Lower courts really like people to work things out and it is unlikely that the gay organization was harmed, even if the owner was wrong.

explain to me again how making cupcakes is exposing his daughter to any part of the gay agenda or endorosing their sexual behavior?

and this would have apprently been a non-issue had the bakery either made the cupcakes OR NOT IDENTIFIED THE CLIENTS SEXUAL PREFERENCE AS THE REASON HE WASN"T GOING TO SERVE THEM.

 

[n0n1m0us3]

I really don't understand how it can be legal for a business to refuse to sell or work for someone based on discriminatory practices. This is about cupcakes but what if it was a pharmacy that refused to sell medical supplies or fill prescriptions because the client is gay, or what if it was a grocery store that refused to sell food to someone because they are gay or a gas station that refused to sell gas.

 

[bresamil]

I've been wondering....if rainbows are only for gays what does that make Jessie Jackson and the Rainbow Coalition?

 

[GWguy]

I still want a cupcake....

 

[hvp05]

I've been wondering....if rainbows are only for gays what does that make Jessie Jackson and the Rainbow Coalition?

Not sure. But I would love to have one of his people come into my bakery so I could refuse them service; then I'd be aggravating liberal blacks and gays in one shot. I'm all about efficiency.

 

[JoeRider]

explain to me again how making cupcakes is exposing his daughter to any part of the gay agenda or endorosing their sexual behavior?

and this would have apprently been a non-issue had the bakery either made the cupcakes OR NOT IDENTIFIED THE CLIENTS SEXUAL PREFERENCE AS THE REASON HE WASN"T GOING TO SERVE THEM.

Let's take the second one first:

"OR NOT IDENTIFIED THE CLIENTS SEXUAL PREFERENCE AS THE REASON HE WASN"T GOING TO SERVE THEM"

Not the case. His quote is something to the effect of endorsing an organization that supports gay issues by providing special orders for that organization. Black panthers support many things that a lot of us do not agree with. Does that mean if the owner does not want to do business with the Black Panthers, then he is discriminating against Blacks? Does the government require Disney to recognize the Black Panthers? Does Disney have to provide special services to GLBTOI?

America's largest gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, queer, and intersex
(GLBTQI) organization


I think the answer is no. If Disney did, it might affect their branding and loose the family value that they market too. Does it mean they don't do business with members of those organizations? No. Same with the Black Panthers, just because you do not do business with the Black Panthers does not mean you do not do business with Blacks. Big Difference! Right?

Next step, I own a private business that my minor daughters may work at or may frequent because I am working there. Since I do special business with the Black Panthers or GLBTOI, those organizational values may be attributed to my business, which is not part of my branding strategy and whose beliefs I do not want my daughters exposed to. The rights of businesses to protect minors from offensive material, thoughts, etc... is well protected with Supreme Court Rulings. I would say that Just Cookies and Disney key target customers appeals to children.

I have not read that Just Cookies did not sell to homosexuals because they were homosexual. No where did I read that there was a sign that said " We do not serve homosexuals ....they serve themselves" For all we know, Just Cookies may even employee homosexuals.

These cases are just more examples where the gay activists are trying to force their agenda by using the government laws on private business. Since I want less government in my life, I am all for this business owner's decision to decide what organizations he wants to support.

Additionally, I am against any sexual orientation laws since I believe that sexual orientation is a choice, unlike race. Creed has a fundamental different position in our Constitution for obvious reasons. Sexual orientation does not.
Since sexual orientation is part of local laws, I have to respect it, just like Maryland "stand your ground laws" and gun laws that I disagree with (and I never have owned a gun). In Just Cookies case, I do not think a law has been broken and he might have a good case for lost of business (which I doubt) against the gay groups attacks against his business.

In the end it is about a bunch of whiney gays not getting their way because they are not accepted, thus they are getting back at the business owner. It is obvious that they are out to make a point and push their agenda and it has zero to do with getting cup cakes.

 

[foodcritic]

I really don't understand how it can be legal for a business to refuse to sell or work for someone based on discriminatory practices. This is about cupcakes but what if it was a pharmacy that refused to sell medical supplies or fill prescriptions because the client is gay, or what if it was a grocery store that refused to sell food to someone because they are gay or a gas station that refused to sell gas.

That's right there store they can refuse. You don't like go back to your pinko, commie, liberal, satan loving world of neverland and get fat on your rainbow colored/flavored (with extra salt, fat and high fructose corn syrup) cupcakes.

 

[bcp]

you would think that they would have preferred donuts.

would have been more symbolic

 

[hvp05]

you would think that they would have preferred chocolate-covered donuts.

Ew.

 

[Bay_Kat]

you would think that they would have preferred donuts.

would have been more symbolic

 

[JoeRider]

you would think that they would have preferred donuts.

would have been more symbolic

Or finger cookies. Isn't there a dirty song out there about cream filled donuts and there once was a man from Nantucket? I think I heard Johnny Carson joke about it. It was an old sailor song.

 

[bcp]

Or finger cookies. Isn't there a dirty song out there about cream filled donuts and there once was a man from Nantucket? I think I heard Johnny Carson joke about it. It was an old sailor song.

The man from Nantucket had little use for donuts or fingers as I remember it.

 

[Nucklesack]

I really don't understand how it can be legal for a business to refuse to sell or work for someone based on discriminatory practices. This is about cupcakes but what if it was a pharmacy that refused to sell medical supplies or fill prescriptions because the client is gay, or what if it was a grocery store that refused to sell food to someone because they are gay or a gas station that refused to sell gas.

In the city of Indianapolis it is illegal

but why let that get in the way

 

[EmptyTimCup]

I think the answer is no. If Disney did, it might affect their branding and loose the family value that they market too.

Disney is full of Queers ....... think about it


Stage Acting / Theater - attracts lots of Alternate Lifestyle'rs

 

[JoeRider]

Disney is full of Queers ....... think about it


Stage Acting / Theater - attracts lots of Alternate Lifestyle'rs

Darn, you are right, but you should be ashamed to use the term Alternative Life Style (they are mainstream) and queers.

In another part of the expo, closed to those under 18, there were huge displays for companies that sell pornography, sex toys and lubricants. A Doubletree desk clerk doing his best to be professional was given a handwritten note: "Call me, sex muffin." A phone number followed. (See the top 10 Disney controversies.)

Even though Disney has never officially sanctioned Gay Days and has asked employees to treat the first Saturday in June just like any other day, Christian-right groups have scolded the company for doing nothing to stop the event. For eight years after Gay Days began, the Southern Baptist Convention boycotted Disney. But it's unclear what, specifically, conservatives wanted park officials to do — ban anyone in a red shirt on the first Saturday in June?


Read more: Gay Days at Disney World: Popular Pride Event in Orlando - TIME


ieee yiiii yiii yii, your sister swims after troop ships.....

 

[JoeRider]

I really don't understand how it can be legal for a business to refuse to sell or work for someone based on discriminatory practices. This is about cupcakes but what if it was a pharmacy that refused to sell medical supplies or fill prescriptions because the client is gay, or what if it was a grocery store that refused to sell food to someone because they are gay or a gas station that refused to sell gas.

It is illegal because it is a breech of contract with the City and the City ordinance. It may be just a breech of contract with a city lease.

It is equal to spitting on the sidewalk or jay walking unless it has backing by the State or Federal government.

BTW, pharmacies employees do not have to fill Abortion pill prescriptions if it is against their morals. I think there was a case that ruled in favor of that.

 

[This_person]

I really don't understand how it can be legal for a business to refuse to sell or work for someone based on discriminatory practices. This is about cupcakes but what if it was a pharmacy that refused to sell medical supplies or fill prescriptions because the client is gay, or what if it was a grocery store that refused to sell food to someone because they are gay or a gas station that refused to sell gas.

Why should private businesses be forced to do anything in terms of how they sell their product or employ their people - outside of blatant harm?

For example, if a television station wants to call itself Black Entertainment, and cater only to blacks, is that discriminatory? If people are hired because of their race, isn't that discriminatory? If you're not dumping toxic waste, not outright lying to people, why are there any other rules about how you run your company?

 

[JoeRider]

Why should private businesses be forced to do anything in terms of how they sell their product or employ their people - outside of blatant harm?

For example, if a television station wants to call itself Black Entertainment, and cater only to blacks, is that discriminatory? If people are hired because of their race, isn't that discriminatory? If you're not dumping toxic waste, not outright lying to people, why are there any other rules about how you run your company?

Because it is written in the law. Just like why you need handicap stalls in your businesses bathroom or why cockroaches are not allowed. BTW, it is you who allows them to write it in the law unless you vote or do something like run for office to make a difference.

 

[Dimwit Child]

when....

i open my bakery first question i am asking is, "do you post on the somd online forums?" and NONE of yall are getting a damn thing!!!!!