ProximaCentauri
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What about it? Yes, creationism is taught...and so is evolution. If both are taught along side each other I see no issue with it. You do want people to think for themselves, yes? So, then why do you want to indoctrinate them with your own agenda through the public schools? As for private schools, they're private and they have the right to teach whatever they want. Maybe atheists should start their own private schools and we can then keep both the religions of Christianity and Atheism out of public schools, eh?
Do you not see how you are guilty of your own accusation? You and I both agreed that Atheism is a religion, so stop pushing your religion off on others in the public setting.
I can't believe you just attempted this same old tired tripe, I thought you were smarter than that. People kill in the name of all kinds of things and they'll certainly use religion or philosophy or anything under the sun if it's opportunistic to do so. Whether it be Hitler, Stalin or Mao, it's *people* who are at issue, not the religion. All of those people (even Hitler) killed Christians and it was not in the name of Christianity. Stalin alone killed more than the entire years of Christian crusades. (I've posted the numbers here before a couple times, you're free to dig it up if you feel you have to.) There really isn't much difference between "I kill in the name of my Lord" and "I kill in the name of the State". Or, as as happened in that "millennia" you speak of, "I kill in the name of territory", "I kill in the name of gold", "I kill in the name of politics", "I kill in the name of preserving my culture" as well as "I kill in the name of my God". For ####'s sake, you can't seriously pin an entire millennia of crap on religion alone. If you attempt to do so, then you are woefully ignorant of secular history and you are being completely *irrational*.
The human condition, as in our penchant to kill others for our own cause whether it be Christianity, Atheism, oil, gold, food, whatever; our penchant to be hateful; our penchant to be our own worse enemy. It's not hard to understand, PC. You don't have to be a Christian to be indoctrinated. A child can be indoctrinated on patriotism, philosophy, ideology, politics, insert whatever you choose here it doesn't really matter.
Sorry, but the chip on your shoulder is glaringly obvious. *Human beings* are irrational, we both have already agreed that's true and you just proved it above. It's people, not the religion, or the philosophy, or the politics, or the whatever. It's *people*, people like you and people like me, people like her and people like him. It's *people*, that human condition, that you need to take issue with.
I think this conversation has dwindled to a close at this point. There's really not much else I can say that I haven't already said. I'll let you have the last word. Cheers!
So we appear to be at an impasse again. What a surprise.
Rad1, you know I love you, but I’m not the one who thinks a cracker can be turned into the body of jesus.
And I’m sorry to be the one to have to break it to you, but being rational does not entail believing anything you want simply because it makes you feel good. Yes, I’m afraid, you’re the irrational one, not I. And your little arguments you like to use …”No I’m not but you Are”... doesn’t change that fact. Being rational demands that you base your beliefs on things which can be mapped to reality. Religion is not one of those things.
Religion is dependent on invisible beings, inaudible voices, intangible entities, undetectable forces and imagined events that happen after death. I want to make it clear that I don’t give a sh*t if people choose to hold irrational beliefs, as long as these beliefs do not negatively impact society. But unfortunately sometimes they do. Since there’s no reality-check for a believer, sometimes their bat#### crazy beliefs result in bat#### crazy behaviors. I'm not saying that religion has no positive impact on society. It does. But at what cost? For me, the negatives outweigh the positives.
Have a great Easter Weekend.