Good or evil? Do you believe?

[PsyOps]

Well you pretentious boob.

You could at least pretend that you were talking about the subject matter instead of obsessing over me.

If I were such a child then you would be the mature one - but no.

Not any more pretentious than you answering questions that led you OFF the subject.

Now whatever 9 year old you kicked off of that library computer, give it back. You’re not the only juvenile entitled to free things.

 

[warneckutz]

If you must refer only to me myself personally - as surely you must - then I do not have a job because I am Disabled and unable to do a job, but I still see myself as contributing to society.

When you work on a job then you are really just contributing to the enrichment of your boss (or the Company owner).

As to hoping He (God) hears me when I am begging for mercy - then yes of course I do.

You're obviously capable of using a computer to type non-stop garbage. You could be an e-marketer. You spam the board with your nonsense, just imagine how many people you could reach preaching the wonders of LASIK or you could spread the love with CHRISTIANMINGLE.com (Your soulmate Lisa Marie is on there waiting for you, btw)


Give me your e-mail address, I'll sign you up!

 

[Cheeky1]

You really believe when you work for someone else (which the vast majority of WORKERS do work for someone else) you’re actually JUST contributing to the enrichment of your boss/company?

I am not sure exactly who you are addressing. If you are addressing me with this question - I believe an good worker enriches the company and a good company enriches its workers.

There are bad workers and bad companies.

However, the basic exchange is the worker labors for a wage and, at the same time, builds their skills and knowledge. The worker's labor will, by default, enrich the company simply by doing their job.

I don't understand the mentality that "only the company benefits". There are bad bosses and bad workers, but I don't think that is what is being discussed here.

 

[JPCusick]

Excellent.

I am not sure exactly who you are addressing. If you are addressing me with this question - I believe an good worker enriches the company and a good company enriches its workers.

There are bad workers and bad companies.

However, the basic exchange is the worker labors for a wage and, at the same time, builds their skills and knowledge. The worker's labor will, by default, enrich the company simply by doing their job.

I don't understand the mentality that "only the company benefits". There are bad bosses and bad workers, but I don't think that is what is being discussed here.

You are simply wallowing in the original poison, as told in post #6, and in post #11, and #20.

This "Cheeky1" quoted above is a true example of the poison in action - wallowing in it!

Judging things as "good or bad" is the original dysfunction infecting humanity.

There are no "good or bad" bosses or workers or companies, as that kind of judging simply confuses the mind.

 

[bcp]

You are simply wallowing in the original poison, as told in post #6, and in post #11, and #20.

This "Cheeky1" quoted above is a true example of the poison in action - wallowing in it!

Judging things as "good or bad" is the original dysfunction infecting humanity.

There are no "good or bad" bosses or workers or companies, as that kind of judging simply confuses the mind.

but republicans are bad, democrats are good, is this not what you have told us?
could that be a symptom of your dysfunctioning human nature?

 

[JPCusick]

Excellent.

but republicans are bad, democrats are good, is this not what you have told us?
could that be a symptom of your dysfunctioning human nature?

Very seldom will you find me using that incorrect terminology, but some times I might slip up.

It is an important distinction that "good and bad" are NOT the same as right and wrong.

After Adam and Eve infected all of humanity with that original poison then God started teaching people about right and wrong as like the 10 commandments, and as such there are absolute principles concerning right and wrong, while there is nothing human which can determine good and bad.

I do not say that the Republicans are "bad" as I say they are cold and cruel and ignorant but those things do not make them as "bad" even though it looks that way, and the Democrats are more caring and considerate and responsible but that does not make them as being "good".

And as to "Cheeky1" there are no "good and bad" jobs or workers or bosses as all those are simply opinions and biased judgements based on the original poisoned knowledge of Genesis 2:16-18.

What is being done is that misguided people are putting themselves on a pedestal as if looking down over top of the world as like God would do by judging "good and bad" which is what the serpent in the garden told to Adam and Eve, "shall be as gods", and there was some truth in the serpent's claim in that the poisoned knowledge does make people to view their judgements to "be as gods" but it is a dysfunctional knowledge as God told them it will cause death to the user, and that includes a spiritual death because it is indeed a strange and powerful kind of poison.

 

[bcp]

but it is a dysfunctional knowledge as God told them it will cause death to the user, and that includes a spiritual death because it is indeed a strange and powerful kind of poison.

Now wait a minute here, on other threads you have stated that all humans have a relationship with God, and that all humans would be saved.
so,
Is God lying when he said there would be a spiritual death.. or are you making stuff up when you say everyone will be saved.
cant have both, now I have to make a decision, Do I believe you, or do I believe God...

ok, nuff time to think on it.
I believe God and according to God, you are wrong.

 

[PsyOps]

I am not sure exactly who you are addressing. If you are addressing me with this question - I believe an good worker enriches the company and a good company enriches its workers.

You replied to JPC’s specific quote:

When you work on a job then you are really just contributing to the enrichment of your boss (or the Company owner).

Your reply was:

True…

My reply to that was:

You really believe when you work for someone else (which the vast majority of WORKERS do work for someone else) you’re actually JUST contributing to the enrichment of your boss/company?

JPC didn't say good workers enrich the companies they work for as well as receive enrichment in return, he said 'you are really just contributing to the enrichment of your boss.' In other words, you're only making your boss wealthy on your slave-driven back. You really get nothing in return except a meager paycheck for the endless toil your slave master inflicted on you. JPC is an entitlement leech doesn’t feel anyone should have to work for a living; he feels no one should have to succumb to wealthy slave master called “A boss” or “An Owner”. They are evil people preying on unsuspecting idiots roaming the world trying to make ends meet.

However, the basic exchange is the worker labors for a wage and, at the same time, builds their skills and knowledge. The worker's labor will, by default, enrich the company simply by doing their job.

I don't understand the mentality that "only the company benefits". There are bad bosses and bad workers, but I don't think that is what is being discussed here.

And if that’s what JPC really meant then I’d agree with him. But I know that’s not what he meant. JPC believes that only the rich, greedy owner benefits from running a business. This resides right up there with the reason why he refuses to get a job and actually work for someone and make an honest living. He thinks by doing so he would be a slave to the owner. He thinks is honest and honorable to live off of the hard-earned dollars of others. Not even realizing he is a slave to the government and to his own failings.

 

[PsyOps]

you making stuff up...

You’d have been better to just have left it right there…

 

[bcp]

You’d have been better to just have left it right there…

not the first time I have been told I went to far with something.

 

[JPCusick]

Excellent.

Now wait a minute here, on other threads you have stated that all humans have a relationship with God, and that all humans would be saved.
so,
Is God lying when he said there would be a spiritual death.. or are you making stuff up when you say everyone will be saved.
cant have both, now I have to make a decision, Do I believe you, or do I believe God...

Yes every person does get saved, but that salvation comes later at the Judgement Day.

So there is another kind of saved and salvation here and now in this lifetime.

Being spiritually dead is in this lifetime now, just like physical death and dying in this lifetime is an obvious reality.

The original poisoned knowledge guarantees a spiritual death where the person remains blind and ignorant to the spiritual truths.

So yes we can have both ways - as in we die in this life and get resurrected into a next life, and we can live being spiritually dead in this life, while being given a spiritual awakening on the Judgement Day.

 

[Cheeky1]

...There are no "good or bad" bosses or workers or companies, as that kind of judging simply confuses the mind.

It confuses your mind.

Everyone, some more than others, will contradict themselves at some point in their life. You, 'JPCusick', tend to make a habit of it...at least, on this forum you tend to.

In general, for both "good and bad" workers and companies (even though you seem to have issues with good and bad existing), generousity is "good" and selfish is "bad". Both the company and the worker hold a relationship containing both generousity and selfishness. They work in tandem with each other.

For example: Any person asks their friend, "Is that a good company to work for?"

The friend responds, "Yes, they treat their employees well." This is code for - the company is generous to its workers while at the same time maintaining its structure and business model.

Smaller companies tend to run this way much more so than larger companies, but to each his own.

The person asks their friend, "Would that employee work well for us?"

The friend responds, "No, that employee is dishonest and shows a lack of performance in previous employment opportunities." In this instance, the employee is selfish by not showing up for work on time and, further more, not meeting deadlines.

Each of these instances can be interchanged. A good company with bad employees will be exploited by the employees. A bad company with good employees; the employees will be exploited by the company (and hopefully the good employees LEAVE the bad company)

Good and bad are very real. Murder is bad (selfish). Self-defense is good (generous). Stealing is bad (selfish). Giving to charity is good (generous). Exploitation is bad (selfish). Encouraging growth is those who support you is good (generous). Do you see the pattern here? "Call" on God for the final answer and say on the matter

 

[JPCusick]

Excellent.

It confuses your mind.

Everyone, some more than others, will contradict themselves at some point in their life. You, 'JPCusick', tend to make a habit of it...at least, on this forum you tend to.

In general, for both "good and bad" workers and companies (even though you seem to have issues with good and bad existing), generousity is "good" and selfish is "bad". Both the company and the worker hold a relationship containing both generousity and selfishness. They work in tandem with each other.

For example: Any person asks their friend, "Is that a good company to work for?"

The friend responds, "Yes, they treat their employees well." This is code for - the company is generous to its workers while at the same time maintaining its structure and business model.

Smaller companies tend to run this way much more so than larger companies, but to each his own.

The person asks their friend, "Would that employee work well for us?"

The friend responds, "No, that employee is dishonest and shows a lack of performance in previous employment opportunities." In this instance, the employee is selfish by not showing up for work on time and, further more, not meeting deadlines.

Each of these instances can be interchanged. A good company with bad employees will be exploited by the employees. A bad company with good employees; the employees will be exploited by the company (and hopefully the good employees LEAVE the bad company)

Good and bad are very real. Murder is bad (selfish). Self-defense is good (generous). Stealing is bad (selfish). Giving to charity is good (generous). Exploitation is bad (selfish). Encouraging growth is those who support you is good (generous). Do you see the pattern here? "Call" on God for the final answer and say on the matter

That is fine by me if you want to stand by that non-Biblical claim, but I say you and those you refer to are all just wallowing in the same old dysfunction from Adam and Eve, and it is a "catch 22" in that the poison keeps people blind and people are blind to the reality because of the poisoned knowledge.

You and everyone will get saved on the Judgement Day regardless of how wrong or mixed up you might be now, as the poisoned knowledge only hurts us in this lifetime.

"Many are called but few are chosen."

Peace.