Goodbye, Chesapeake Hills clubhouse

MiddleGround

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Dump your millennial friends. They are whiners who think they know everything. Problem solved.

It is honestly not that. One of my friends in particular has told me several stories regarding responses to calls where some of the "legacy" members would respond to the firehouse for the call and just refuse to dress and go with them. During training exercises where they are supposed to participate and 'put in the work' they just sit on the side smoking and talking while the younger/newer guys do all the training. When one of the new guys proposed a change to have every member participate in a minimum number of calls and training events, the "legacy" members shot it down and the guy who proposed the change was ostracized.

Yep... sounds like something I would want to volunteer for alright! NOT!
 

officeguy

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The training part is done by the time you allow the fire to get into the roof. Once the place is fully involved, you just stand back, watch the show and take some group photos.
 
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Bann

Doris Day meets Lady Gaga
PREMO Member
I know 2 people that volunteer in 2 different squads. After listening to them vent about the drama, laziness of the old-timers, and the fact that changing anything in those departments to make them better requires a vote which usually gets shot down my the majority (the people who have been there for 30 years.. do nothing really... and only participate for the tax write off)

Vent about the drama?! :lol: Whiners-R-Us!
 

Grumpy

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The training part is done by the time you allow the fire to get into the roof. So yes, once the place is fully involved, you just stand back, watch the show and take some group photos.
Exactly, watched my boyhood home burn in a training exercise back in 2001, 4 or 5 fires set in different areas of house, training groups went in and extinguished. After a few hours they let it go..
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Bann

Doris Day meets Lady Gaga
PREMO Member
It is honestly not that. One of my friends in particular has told me several stories regarding responses to calls where some of the "legacy" members would respond to the firehouse for the call and just refuse to dress and go with them. During training exercises where they are supposed to participate and 'put in the work' they just sit on the side smoking and talking while the younger/newer guys do all the training. When one of the new guys proposed a change to have every member participate in a minimum number of calls and training events, the "legacy" members shot it down and the guy who proposed the change was ostracized.

Yep... sounds like something I would want to volunteer for alright! NOT!

I think youre friends should contact the county commissioners in their county and report these goings on. County money and public donations fund the volunteer FD's. I can't believe that there is no recourse. I think that all of the "younger/newer" guys should present a united front.

Regardless, this is off-topic and has nothing to do with a controlled burn for training.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
I think youre friends should contact the county commissioners in their county and report these goings on. County money and public donations fund the volunteer FD's. I can't believe that there is no recourse. I think that all of the "younger/newer" guys should present a united front.

Regardless, this is off-topic and has nothing to do with a controlled burn for training.
I wish it was that simple. In fact..the entir opposite is true. Todd Morgan sided with the grossly dysfunctional management of our local VFD instead of the widespread opposition to their desire to build a new Taj Mahal fire house to support their continued ability to dribble some water on the foundation of burned down houses. And then had the gall to suggest afterward that we "all have a beer and be friends again".
 

Bonehead

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I was involved in the 2nd district for a couple years. I bailed due to the politics and hard headed personalities, too much.
 

Grumpy

Well-Known Member
That had to be hard to watch.
Not as hard as watching a home filled with 250 years of family history go up...with the same basic attention from VFD..watch it go.
Agree with that..House was built in 190X, remodeled in early 50s, my parents bought it in 1957, sold in 98 to an Elks club who had plans to use it but couldn't get the zoning. Resold to a church that had the same issue..finally after 3,4 years vacant, allowed the local VFD to use it for training and then burn.

No extended family history other then the 41 years, but still very hard to watch. Actually think it would have been hard to drive by and see someone else other than family live there, too.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
Agree with that..House was built in 190X, remodeled in early 50s, my parents bought it in 1957, sold in 98 to an Elks club who had plans to use it but couldn't get the zoning. Resold to a church that had the same issue..finally after 3,4 years vacant, allowed the local VFD to use it for training and then burn.

No extended family history other then the 41 years, but still very hard to watch. Actually think it would have been hard to drive by and see someone else other than family live there, too.
Like I said...mine was a literal museum..chock full of everything you'd expect to find when you are the last remaining heir of a 300+ year old family line. Gone....poof.
 

Bann

Doris Day meets Lady Gaga
PREMO Member
I wish it was that simple. In fact..the entir opposite is true. Todd Morgan sided with the grossly dysfunctional management of our local VFD instead of the widespread opposition to their desire to build a new Taj Mahal fire house to support their continued ability to dribble some water on the foundation of burned down houses. And then had the gall to suggest afterward that we "all have a beer and be friends again".

I'm sorry about your house burning down. :huggy:
 

General Lee

Well-Known Member
If I may ...


Training? There was no training going on. They just sat or stood and watched while it burned. The only reason they were there was to ensure the fire didn't spread to other areas. I watched it for a bit, stopped, while driving by. They were standing around watching. That's it. When all was said and done, all apparatus left with just a small contingent to watch the smoldering piles before all was put out. Training? Ha.

If I may...

As a former fire fighter, when a structure becomes available to burn down, fire fighters will train in it first if it is structurally sound enough. They set fires, extinguish and repeat. Once the structure reaches an unsafe condition, they let it burn. Maybe that is what you saw. Maybe they trained first and you caught the part where they were standing around monitoring?
 

mdff21

Active Member
If I may ...


Training? There was no training going on. They just sat or stood and watched while it burned. The only reason they were there was to ensure the fire didn't spread to other areas. I watched it for a bit, stopped, while driving by. They were standing around watching. That's it. When all was said and done, all apparatus left with just a small contingent to watch the smoldering piles before all was put out. Training? Ha.

What time were you there. The FD has been training there for the last month. During that time, they conducted search and rescue evolutions, ventilation evolutions along with hose and ladder evolutions. Saturday was the end of the training evolutions. They started at 6 AM with live burn evolutions that ending with finally letting the structure burn. You probably got there after all of the drilling/training was completed and they were letting it burn.
 

Bann

Doris Day meets Lady Gaga
PREMO Member
What time were you there. The FD has been training there for the last month. During that time, they conducted search and rescue evolutions, ventilation evolutions along with hose and ladder evolutions. Saturday was the end of the training evolutions. They started at 6 AM with live burn evolutions that ending with finally letting the structure burn. You probably got there after all of the drilling/training was completed and they were letting it burn.
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