Google rolls out ‘pay calculator’ explaining work-from-home salary cuts

[HemiHauler]

Does lobbing insults make you feel good about yourself? Are you really that invested in Google that you want to be some weird cultbot pitching a childish tantrum?

FACT: they don't have to reduce pay based on location. That's something they arbitrarily decided to do. Nobody made them, they just did it. Not like it's a law or anything.

Oooh! They created a calculator!



FACT: Google isn't going to go bankrupt over a few hundred thou or even a few million in salaries. As has already been pointed out, they save that money in not having to maintain facilities. It's cheaper for them to have people working from home.

And AGAIN:

I couldn't care less what Google does. They capitalize on Chinese slave labor, so what's a few American pay cuts? But they don't get to be all sanctimonious about Mom & Pop companies not paying a "living wage", then turn around and reduce the pay of their own employees based on where they live.

I see. So these Googler's have been reduced to something under a "living wage" then, is that what you're asserting?

You're also misrepresenting the issue here. The issue isn't simply that the employee moved. It's that they moved AND are full-time work from home. If they wanted to live in Stamford AND continue to take the train into Manhattan, they would enjoy their higher pay level. The employee doesn't need to work from home full-time. They arbitrarily chose that life and it, while permissible, changes the terms of their employment contract to, one element of which is their pay.

 

[DoWhat]

Personally I'd take a pay cut if I could permanently move out of MD and never show my face at my place of work.

If you can get approval for remote working, then you can do that and get paid the locality pay for the area where you live.

You should of been required to get the training between telework and remote work, I did.

 

[Clem72]

Does lobbing insults make you feel good about yourself?

Yes, a little bit.

Are you really that invested in Google that you want to be some weird cultbot pitching a childish tantrum?

Not actually a big fan of Google, but mostly for privacy and wokism reasons not hypocracy.

FACT: they don't have to reduce pay based on location. That's something they arbitrarily decided to do. Nobody made them, they just did it. Not like it's a law or anything.

Sounds like you are mixing up the term arbitrarily with capriciously. The fact is they did this in a controlled systematic fashion likely driven by a desire to maximize profits. Not arbitrary in the least.

FACT: Google isn't going to go bankrupt over a few hundred thou or even a few million in salaries. As has already been pointed out, they save that money in not having to maintain facilities. It's cheaper for them to have people working from home.

If they wanted remote work they would have hired remote work, likely from India.

And AGAIN:

I couldn't care less what Google does.

And yet you sure seem to have strong opinions about them, sounds like maybe you could care just a smidge less

They capitalize on Chinese slave labor, so what's a few American pay cuts? But they don't get to be all sanctimonious about Mom & Pop companies not paying a "living wage", then turn around and reduce the pay of their own employees based on where they live.

Says the lady not caring.

 

[stgislander]

 

[phreddyp]

I love it very blonde and gurps showing their true socialists colors. Tried to hide it for a while didn't you.

 

[BOP]

I certainly hope this doesn't become a trend, I'm enjoying saving my 90 miles of commute daily..Will probably see it affect merit increases, tho.

Sounds like time to pull the plug, if you're able. Next up: wait til Congress discovers how much locality pay they could spend like drunken sloots if they did away with that.

 

[GURPS]

I love it very blonde and gurps showing their true socialists colors. Tried to hide it for a while didn't you.

 

[HemiHauler]

I love it very blonde and gurps showing their true socialists colors. Tried to hide it for a while didn't you.

I don't know about socialist but a misunderstanding of how business work and overlooking what at-will employment actually means.

 

[BOP]

I had to look up "locality pay"...didn't have that when I was a Fed employee. Learnt something new..

Damn, how old are you?

 

[BOP]

I noticed you're using the patented SOMD "troll alert" icon, for those of us who have them on ignore. Thanks!

 

[BOP]

Kind of the point I was trying to make .. a position and salary negotiated at the time of hiring, and expectations set .. it is a bit unethical to change the terms because someone moved .... was the employee told at the time of hiring, if you change zip codes we are going to change your pay ... maybe I want to live in a cheaper zip code to by more house -n people do this all the time ... why should a Google employee face a pay cut

Now Google is not making any LESS Money in fact they should down size the office space and pay the employee for AC, Internet and Power for working from home, and not having to maintain a huge office space ..

Yeah, except a lot of companies are taking a bath on their nearly empty buildings. I was in one of those buildings that I used to go into with my CAC (which felt weird) recently, and they're having to give up their facility off Expedition because of it.

 

[BOP]

You really feel the need to display your ignorance every day?
Arbitrary - "based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system."

They literally created a calculator to show you THE SYSTEM they devised for reducing pay based on location. The exact opposite of arbitrary you dumb broad.

To think, people wonder why you're single. And living in your mom's basement.

 

[BOP]

One could say that fits, ie they don't need that extra money any more.

"I do think that, at a certain point, you've made enough money." - B. H. Obama

 

[OccamsRazor]

To think, people wonder why you're single. And living in your mom's basement.

Although I do not agree with the name calling, the point was made that 'arbitrary' was not used as advertised by the poster.

By the way... still waiting for those "Google doesn't pay living wages" information to substantiate the assertions......

 

[BOP]

Although I do not agree with the name calling, the point was made that 'arbitrary' was not used as advertised by the poster.

By the way... still waiting for those "Google doesn't pay living wages" information to substantiate the assertions......

I think she was using the word the way a lot of people (probably including me) to mean "capricious," which probably works a little more efficiently. Maybe not completely, but better. I'm certainly open to suggestions.

Really, though, it's not like companies are paying for OTHER than scarce resources (i.e. labor). Every other part of a compensation package is designed to entice people to trade their labor for money...or mostly tangible assets whose value is equal to money (retirement, health insurance, ect.). To change the rules in mid-stream is at the very least, patently unfair. In other words, we want your labor, but now we're going to pay less than the amount both of us agreed to.

 

[GURPS]

By the way... still waiting for those "Google doesn't pay living wages" information to substantiate the assertions......

Reading Comprehension is difficult .. try to keep up No One claimned Google was not paying a living wage

 

[GURPS]

To change the rules in mid-stream is at the very least, patently unfair. In other words, we want your labor, but now we're going to pay less than the amount both of us agreed to.

yeah a bit unethical

 

[BOP]

Reading Comprehension is difficult .. try to keep up No One claimned Google was not paying a living wage

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Google, like all the big techs and all the big boxes, follow the Sam Walton principle of the road to success for your company means bulldozing the competition by any means necessary. His entire family is all about that principle.

 

[OccamsRazor]

Reading Comprehension is difficult .. try to keep up No One claimned Google was not paying a living wage

First you say this. Then, you comment with this.

But they don't get to be all sanctimonious about Mom & Pop companies not paying a "living wage", then turn around and reduce the pay of their own employees based on where they live.

Exactly how is a company that consistently pays a very good living wage and is often touted as one of the best places to work "sanctimonious" for criticizing those who do not? This isn't McDonald's or Walmart we are talking about. You essentially negated your whole point and provided proof for it too.

 

[HemiHauler]

Google, like all the big techs and all the big boxes, follow the Sam Walton principle of the road to success for your company means bulldozing the competition by any means necessary. His entire family is all about that principle.

You say as if it’s a bad thing. The titans of industry didn’t get that way by playing in the marketplace the same was kids are taught to play in the sandbox, be nice to one another and share and share alike.

If a business is made obsolete by a wal mart or amazon or Google etc then they really weren’t adding value in the marketplace and it’s probably time for them find another way forward.