Google rolls out ‘pay calculator’ explaining work-from-home salary cuts

[Clem72]

To change the rules in mid-stream is at the very least, patently unfair. In other words, we want your labor, but now we're going to pay less than the amount both of us agreed to.

Google aren't changing the rules....... the employees are free to remain and work exactly under the conditions for which they were hired and will receive the exact compensation package that was agreed upon. It's the employees that want to change the rules. Google is willing to meet them in the middle, allowing them to work from home. But they don't seem to be willing to pay the excessive silicon valley rates for people not in silicon valley. Is it nice? No. Does it make sense from a business perspective, yup.

 

[vraiblonde]

The titans of industry didn’t get that way by playing in the marketplace the same was kids are taught to play in the sandbox, be nice to one another and share and share alike.

And yet that is exactly what Google has been insisting small business owners do. Why is this so hard?

My words are right there in plain English. If you folks want to pretend I said a bunch of things I never said, go right ahead. I couldn't care less about that either because it's par for the course with internet people who can't or won't read, and live to get all jacked up over any little thing so they can start calling people names.

 

[OccamsRazor]

My words are right there in plain English. If you folks want to pretend I said a bunch of things I never said, go right ahead. I couldn't care less about that either because it's par for the course with internet people who can't or won't read, and live to get all jacked up over any little thing so they can start calling people names.

Didn't you say this?

First off, Google is big on the "living wage" bandwagon, equity, social justice, blahblahblah, and now they want to cut employee wages for something fairly arbitrary.

This is so typical of the Marxists it makes my teeth hurt. Certainly they can do as they please, I am simply pointing out their hypocrisy and moral inconsistency.

How exactly is it "hypocritical" for a company that is well known to be one of the greatest places to work and for paying their employees very well to want to save themselves some money for paying their remote working employees what equates to still a great living wage?
No one is "pretending" about anything you said. Just asking what your thinking is regarding what you said. It makes no sense.

 

[vraiblonde]

No one is "pretending" about anything you said. Just asking what your thinking is regarding what you said. It makes no sense.

I have been clear. If you refuse to understand it, that's your problem.

 

[OccamsRazor]

I have been clear. If you refuse to understand it, that's your problem.

Not really. You claim they a "Marxists" yet, make that claim on a decision that is most definitely a sign of capitalism. You claim they are "hypocrites" yet they prove to be anything but as attested to by their wages and employee satisfaction.
Please don't hide behind the "I can't make you understand it" false narrative. YOU made the claims. It is up to you to explain WHY. Anything else is just politically driven OPINION. Of course, it is perfectly OK to just say "I don't agree with this" and leave it at that. Regardless, I think we both know that this will go nowhere anyways.

 

[Gilligan]

Damn, how old are you?

Not quite as old as dirt...but close...

 

[HemiHauler]

And yet that is exactly what Google has been insisting small business owners do. Why is this so hard?

Google is “insisting” on no such thing. From anyone. That is source of your confusion here.

 

[Gilligan]

Inorite?

 

[black dog]

1. Employment contracts are 100% voluntary, one is free to leave if they dislike the terms.
2. The price of labor has nothing to do with how much a company or the parent company makes.

Yep, at will works both ways.

 

[black dog]

Neither does my zipcode

Union Trades have worked that way for 50-75-100 years each local has its own contract.
It costs much more to live in NYC, LA, San Fran and Chicago and other big citys than a local in Bucksnort Tenn.

 

[black dog]

Does lobbing insults make you feel good about yourself? Are you really that invested in Google that you want to be some weird cultbot pitching a childish tantrum?

FACT: they don't have to reduce pay based on location. That's something they arbitrarily decided to do. Nobody made them, they just did it. Not like it's a law or anything.

Oooh! They created a calculator!



FACT: Google isn't going to go bankrupt over a few hundred thou or even a few million in salaries. As has already been pointed out, they save that money in not having to maintain facilities. It's cheaper for them to have people working from home.

And AGAIN:

I couldn't care less what Google does. They capitalize on Chinese slave labor, so what's a few American pay cuts? But they don't get to be all sanctimonious about Mom & Pop companies not paying a "living wage", then turn around and reduce the pay of their own employees based on where they live.

Business 101, you Never pay someone more than you can hire someone else to do that job, Never

Blackie Wills to me in his front yard 15 years ago..

 

[vraiblonde]

Business 101, you Never pay someone more than you can hire someone else to do that job, Never

You people are maddening.

 

[black dog]

You people are maddening.

Heres a question, how many employees have you added to the payroll in the last ten years.
Mr Wills took his fathers company of 20 employees to over 850 when he turned it over to his son...

I have added 6 since being in Indiana the last 11+ years...

 

[GURPS]

I have added 6 since being in Indiana the last 11+ years...

do you cut their pay if the move into a cheaper zip code ?

 

[vraiblonde]

do you cut their pay if the move into a cheaper zip code ?

While demanding that Mom & Pop pay a "living wage" because "equity"?

 

[black dog]

do you cut their pay if the move into a cheaper zip code ?

All of our work is within 8 miles except one thats about 26 miles.
4 work in the shop and two are on outside jobs. Those two have better skills hence they make more money.
So no i do not. Not much cheaper around than where we all live..
When I traveled working for Otis and I worked in a locals territory that paid more i was paid that.
When it was less i was paid my locals money. That was 20+ years sgo...

 

[PeoplesElbow]

Heres a question, how many employees have you added to the payroll in the last ten years.
Mr Wills took his fathers company of 20 employees to over 850 when he turned it over to his son...

I have added 6 since being in Indiana the last 11+ years...

Bet you can find 6 Mexicans to do it cheaper

 

[black dog]

Bet you can find 6 Mexicans to do it cheaper

Not many Spanish hobla tig welding, the two i know that do, work for Red Gold in maintenance/ can seaming. They earn about 35-43 an hour working for the Reicharts, both have worked there over 20 years. With fresh pack overtime both will easily make 90-110 grand a year.

 

[black dog]

Bet you can find 6 Mexicans to do it cheaper

The rest of full disclosure, i worked 10 years in the irrigation industry.
When i left i had had my fill of all that entails hiring and working with mexican labor...
Endless bullshit, drunkenness and drama....

 

[PeoplesElbow]

The rest of full disclosure, i worked 10 years in the irrigation industry.
When i left i had had my fill of all that entails hiring and working with mexican labor...
Endless bullshit, drunkenness and drama....

My point, business 101 isn't absolute.