Great New "Stand Their Ground" Law in Florida

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Bruzilla

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Larry Gude said:
Now that it is legal, EVERYONE will carry a firearm. People who'd never even held a gun will now walk around like Rambo, armed to the teeth, just spoiling for someone to piss them off or look at them funny, just so they can mow them down.

This is the argument of the ignorant. The fact is that there's no way any private citizen can carry a gun whenever they want. For example, most people around here work at NAS Jacksonville, and if you don't turn your guns into security before going on base, they can get confiscated, so most people do not have guns when they are going on base... but some do. You can't have a gun on you if you go into a school. Many businesses do not allow firearms on their property, you can't carry into a bar, etc. So there a lot of inconveniences that keep people from carrying all the time. But, there are still some people out there who are armed, and that's all you need to deter a lot of criminals. You can spot a base worker by the decal on the car, but is that car driven by someone who deal with the security hassle or someone who leaves their gun at home? There's no way to tell. So while there's no way that anybody can carry all the time, there are just enough people to get criminals to think twice, which is why stranger on stranger crime, home invasions, burglaries, car jackings, etc., are going down and will go even lower now.

I agree with you about letting these idiots do things like have babies, vote, and drive cars. And they wonder why there are so many fatalities on the highways.
 
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Bruzilla

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Case in point...

From the St, Peteresburg Times -

INVERNESS - An Inverness man was arrested Saturday after breaking into his neighbors' house and threatening them, shocking himself by sticking his fingers into a lamp socket, threatening a deputy with a metal rod, running naked through his yard and chewing through a cable in a patrol car, authorities said.

Authorities arrested Shyne Harris Phelps, 39, of 2510 Jupiter St., at 1:45 a.m., on charges of kidnapping, burglary of a dwelling, aggravated assault on a law enforcement officer with intent to commit a felony, resisting an officer with violence, battery and criminal mischief, an arrest report said.

Deputies were called to a home on East Dawson Drive, just behind Beall's, at 1:35 a.m. after getting a call of a burglary in progress.

On arrival, Deputy Lynn Tabb saw several people standing in the yard, pointing and yelling. Then he heard something hit the rear passenger side of the patrol car.

When Tabb turned, he saw a man holding a metal rod and wearing only a sheet wrapped around his waist, a report said. He was yelling that he was "ready to go to jail."

Tabb got out of his car and ordered the man to drop the rod. He did, but quickly picked it up again and made a threatening gesture. Tabb pulled his gun. The man dropped the rod but shouted that he was "ready to die" and took off running.

The man tried to scale a chain-link fence to get back to his home on the adjoining property.

The deputy fired a Taser at him, but it didn't connect. The man threw dirt and rocks in the deputy's face, the report said.

The suspect made it over the fence, losing his sheet in the process and sprinted, naked, into his home, the report said.

Neighbors told Tabb that the man had several guns in the house, but the suspect soon came out of the house and was arrested without further incident.

Four people told deputies that the man came into their home after the family called the Sheriff's Office to complain about noise at Phelps' house.

The man came in through the back door, they said, and grabbed them and shouted, "It is time for you to die."

As he tried to force one of the family members out of the home, one of the victims shot him with a Taser.

That just caused the intruder to demand to be shocked some more. He grabbed a lamp, unscrewed the bulb and stuck his fingers in, shocking himself and yelling.

After Phelps was arrested, deputies say he damaged the patrol car by biting through a cable cord in the back seat.

Phelps was taken to Citrus Memorial Hospital and then booked into the county jail.

He was held without bail.

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/05/02/Citrus/Deputies_report_rampa.shtml

It's been legal for the residents to blow this guy away. Even the deputy didn't shoot him.
 

Bustem' Down

Give Peas a Chance
Larry Gude said:
Now that it is legal, EVERYONE will carry a firearm. People who'd never even held a gun will now walk around like Rambo, armed to the teeth, just spoiling for someone to piss them off or look at them funny, just so they can mow them down.
I gotta agree with Bruz on this. It's been leagal to carry firearms in Texas for years and they have a law similar, but not quite, to Florida's and I'd say that only about 25% of the population actually has a permit. And this is in Texas.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
Bruzilla said:
Case in point...

From the St, Peteresburg Times -

INVERNESS - An Inverness man was arrested Saturday ...

As he tried to force one of the family members out of the home, one of the victims shot him with a Taser.

That just caused the intruder to demand to be shocked some more. He grabbed a lamp, unscrewed the bulb and stuck his fingers in, shocking himself and yelling.....
This was similar to my experience with a Taser, 200,000 volt one. They really don't do squat. I let my wife hit me with it. Eh. No big deal. She said shock me. I did. Eh. She doesn't carry it anymore. Better off with a brick; it weighs more.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Gotta work on how I come across...

Bustem' Down said:
I gotta agree with Bruz on this. It's been leagal to carry firearms in Texas for years and they have a law similar, but not quite, to Florida's and I'd say that only about 25% of the population actually has a permit. And this is in Texas.

My point was that this is how it will be played by the anti's, that just because you can now means everyone WILL and therefore, bedlam.
 

cissp

Cyber Cop
Bruzilla said:
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=domesticNews&storyID=8092444

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (Reuters) - People in Florida will be allowed to kill in self-defense on the street without trying to flee under a new law passed by state politicians on Tuesday that critics say will bring a Wild West mentality and innocent deaths.

It wasn't on the street, but recently a 64-year old woman here in Melbourne (approximately a 45 minute drive southeast of Orlando) shot and killed an intruder in her home recently. The intruder gained entry into the woman's home in the middle of the night, and she hit him in the chest with one shot from a .38 from 10 feet away. He managed to stumble out of her home, but passed out on her front lawn and later died.
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
cissp said:
Bruzilla said:
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=domesticNews&storyID=8092444

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (Reuters) - People in Florida will be allowed to kill in self-defense on the street without trying to flee under a new law passed by state politicians on Tuesday that critics say will bring a Wild West mentality and innocent deaths.

It wasn't on the street, but recently a 64-year old woman here in Melbourne (approximately a 45 minute drive southeast of Orlando) shot and killed an intruder in her home recently. The intruder gained entry into the woman's home in the middle of the night, and she hit him in the chest with one shot from a .38 from 10 feet away. He managed to stumble out of her home, but passed out on her front lawn and later died.
:yay: Way to go Granny Oakley. This is what I call "Gun Control", one shot center mass.
 
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