H-eeeeere's Johnny!

[Steve]

Originally posted by mainman
I didn't know that .. Thats pretty annoying...

Tell me about it. I just looked up some poll figures, though, and roughly 75% of the people at the time said they would "forgive them". Looks like they really did, by spending more bucks on them! We have only ourselves to blame for the Natalie Maines' and Johnny Depps in the world.

 

[mainman]

Originally posted by Steve
We have only ourselves to blame for the Natalie Maines' and Johnny Depps in the world.

So so true.... Seems like it just keeps getting worse and worse too. The song "Celebrity" about sums it up... "Adios Reality"

 

[vraiblonde]

Barbra, do you plan on giving some money to NAMBLA or the KKK? *she smiles sweetly*

Please don't miss the point. It's not that anyone is saying Johnny Depp has no right to voice his opinion. What they're saying is that, since they disagree with him so strongly, they choose not to give their money to him. And that's our right as citizens.

 

[SamSpade]

They're not getting a raw deal. If I insult you to your face, and you walk away it ain't a raw deal. By her remarks, she insulted some of her fans. She might as well have called some of her fans a bunch of warmongering rednecks. They replied "well who needs YOU".

It's always been true that if you say something people don't like, free speech or not, you should expect consequences.

I can never understand why the same group of people who cry foul over the Chicks are also the same people who want to rename the Redskins - the "politically correct" crowd.

 

[SamSpade]

The basic premise has little to do with the Dixie Chicks. They're just a footnote.

It just happens too often that when someone, usually espousing liberal views, mouths off and catches heat for it, they usually go running to the skirts of the First Amendment saying that their rights are being violated when someone says something equally nasty BACK. No one ever said freedom of speech meant people have to like what you say or shut the hell up. It only means if you criticize the *government* they can't shut you up. The latest dust-ups coming from Franken and Moore and now Clooney are, it's art, it's comedy, it's satire, we can insult you endlessly without even being fair or factual BUT when you take a shot back it's infringing on my rights. Well that is wrong, it's even logically wrong - what's good for one side is good for both.

BUT - and this is the part I was referring to - the same people who say this are wholly on the side of political correctness. These are usually the same kinds of people who say the name Redskins is offensive and must be changed. That there are certain things and words that cannot be tolerated. This is of course, hypocritical.
If insulting the President is totally fair game, so should any other speech that someone finds offensive.

Sorry to bring it up *here* - but I'm continually annoyed by the double-think that says that my offensive speech needs to be protected but your offensive speech must not be allowed. ("You" in the generic sense, of course).

 

[2ndAmendment]

I didn't like Depp's acting before he starting mouthing off with his anti-U.S. speak. I don't think his political views make his acting any better.

Why do people in the media ask performers their political views anyway? They are only performers. Just because they play the President or a Senator or a cop doesn't mean they actually have the intelligence of those they portray.

 

[Jimbo]

Originally posted by Steve
...serving Cokes at their hometown Cineplex!

Or Freedom Fries

 

[nomoney]

famousidiots.com



Here is a link I thought most of you would be interested in.........

This site is dedicated to exposing the famous among us that feel compelled to speak out on issues that they know nothing about. Their half-witted statements are a testament to their ability to confuse fame with wisdom. Since they have chosen to use their fame as a pulpit for their misinformed views, we have decided to hold them accountable here in the famousidiot.com forum.

 

[vraiblonde]

Harrison Ford:

"I think American films right now are suffering from an excess of scale. Lots of movies we're seeing now are more akin to video games than stories about human life and relationships," said Ford, while noting "12- to 20-year-olds are maybe the largest economic force in the U.S. movie business."

Yes, unlike those great sociological documentaries "Star Wars" and "Indiana Jones".

 

[Larry Gude]

Who would you ask...

...for an opinion on the 2nd amendment, Chuck Shumer or Charlton Heston, if you were trying to let the sun set on the 'assault' weapons ban?

Why do people in the media ask performers their political views anyway?

Agenda. Agenda. Agenda.

 

[nomoney]

I'm soooo sorry link


Looks like this could be the quickest apology in history. Guess he just happened to remember that he has a major movie still in theaters and doesnt want to risk any fundage loss.

 

[Jollymon]

"Depp, who has won acclaim for his recent role in the blockbuster Pirates of the Caribbean, said he had been misquoted in the Stern interview. " BBC News

Of course he was, aren't they always "misquoted"--it amazes me how many celebs have mastered the art of "backpeddling".

 

[Steve]

Nope. Not gonna buy it. I need to see Depp groveling for forgiveness before I'll spend any more money on his films. How do I handle the dilemma of him co-starring in a movie with someone else, like this new Banderas movie? Oh wait, I think I don't like Banderas either. I have to check.

 

[Steve]

Harrison Ford

Although I'll apologize up front for using fiction to make my point here, Harrison Ford said about guns:

"I'm very troubled by the proliferation of arms, at the fact so many people in the United States carry guns. It obviously contributes greatly to the crime problems we have. I'm sure gun laws should be strengthened in the United States. I just don't know the correct mechanism."

Yet in his Star Wars and Indiana Jones movies, his character used firearms to fight off the evil criminals thus making him the hero. I wonder if the movies would have been as successful if he had instead said, in his best "dainty" voice, "Stop it you meanies. You better leave us good guys alone or I'm gonna pinch you!"

The whole reason those movies sparked such enthusiasm was because it showed the underdog defending himself, in these cases with firearms (or whips or X-Wing fighters). The problem has never been the guns; the problems is with the criminals, and they will always have guns.

 

[SmallTown]

Originally posted by Jollymon
"Depp, who has won acclaim for his recent role in the blockbuster Pirates of the Caribbean, said he had been misquoted in the Stern interview. " BBC News

Of course he was, aren't they always "misquoted"--it amazes me how many celebs have mastered the art of "backpeddling".

Celebrities can't win. They go againt the norm, and they are blasted, even if they apologize. If they go with the norm (like Ms. Spears) and they are blasted for only saying what the media (and the people) want to hear.

I find it interesting that people say celebrities should keep their mouths shut about politics because the two things don't go together, yet people are now basing whether or not they go to a movie or buy a cd based on actor or singer's political beliefs. Go figure.

 

[Sharon]

Re: Harrison Ford

Originally posted by Steve
"Stop it you meanies. You better leave us good guys alone or I'm gonna pinch you!"

Funny ...but not as much fun to watch in the movies.

 

[Steve]

Originally posted by SmallTown
I find it interesting that people say celebrities should keep their mouths shut about politics because the two things don't go together, yet people are now basing whether or not they go to a movie or buy a cd based on actor or singer's political beliefs. Go figure.

There is nothing to figure. In the same fashion that I choose not to donate to organizations such as the KKK, the Rainbow Push Coalition, or the Democratic Party, all because I do not agree with their philosophies, is the same reason I choose not to make these actors/singers even richer when I do not agree with their political beliefs. Anyone remember the French rapist/actor Gerard Depardieu? Oh, but that was all in fun, wasn't it?

 

[vraiblonde]

Originally posted by Steve
Anyone remember the French rapist/actor Gerard Depardieu? Oh, but that was all in fun, wasn't it?

Not to mention Roman Polanski, who drugged and raped a 12 year old girl, then fled to France to avoid prosecution.

Nobody holds celebrities responsible for their behavior. Bobby Brown just got a suspended sentence for disappearing while on probation and various other infractions. He's been in and out of trouble for years but the judge let him off, saying he was a role-model with a lovely wife.

Then there's Robert Downey Jr.

 

[SmallTown]

Originally posted by Steve
is the same reason I choose not to make these actors/singers even richer when I do not agree with their political beliefs.

So I guess the phrase 'ignorance is bliss' is true. As long as the people holding views opposite of yours are quiet, you will continue to support them?
(translation: If they don't don't express their views to you, you support them regardless of what their underlying political beliefs may be)

In that case, you need to be more specific and say something along the lines of you don't support them because they are vocal about their beliefs, because we have shown their beliefs don't change your views on the people unless they express them.. So ultimately, it is their expression, and not the belief itself that bothers people.

 

[vraiblonde]

(translation: If they don't don't express their views to you, you support them regardless of what their underlying political beliefs may be)

ST, this has been explained over and over to you. The possiblity that you'll understand it at some point is getting more and more unlikely.