Helmet Laws

itsbob

I bowl overhand
Tonio said:
Since I'm a non-biker, could you explain why many bikers consider helmet laws to be a civil liberties issue?
Freedom of choice.. why should the government tell us what's best for us?
 

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
cattitude said:
I'm not sure where I said you didn't have insurance or that you were an unemployed outlaw. :confused:
It was the "Who'll pay for your vegitative state" comment that got me going.
Did I mention how nice it was to meet you at the Rondevous? You're very attractive.
 

fddog

Bow wow
itsbob said:
and the bat I hit last night was wearing none of the above when he took a header into my jacket. I think he enjoyed his last motorcylce ride, as I found him in a REAL deep sleep still on board.
:lmao: I had one last week hit my head light, I got home and he was still there
 

ACESRT04

THE OTHER
itsbob said:
Freedom of choice.. why should the government tell us what's best for us?
Because they are good at it just ask them they will tell you, and tell you and tell you. :lmao:
 

cattitude

My Sweetest Boy
aps45819 said:
It was the "Who'll pay for your vegitative state" comment that got me going.

But I didn't say that. :razz:


aps45819 said:
Did I mention how nice it was to meet you at the Rondevous? You're very attractive.

Nope, don't think you did. Thanks for the compliment.
 

Tonio

Asperger's Poster Child
itsbob said:
Freedom of choice.. why should the government tell us what's best for us?
Excellent point. There's a certain illogic in trying to legislate common sense.

What arguments do helmet-law advocates use? Do they argue that there's a cost to society when non-helmeted bikers get injured? If I ran an insurance company, I would cancel the insurance of any biker who had an accident while not wearing a helmet. Why should I waste my customers' money protecting people who don't use common sense to protect themselves?
 

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
Tonio said:
Excellent point. There's a certain illogic in trying to legislate common sense.
What arguments do helmet-law advocates use? Do they argue that there's a cost to society when non-helmeted bikers get injured? If I ran an insurance company, I would cancel the insurance of any biker who had an accident while not wearing a helmet. Why should I waste my customers' money protecting people who don't use common sense to protect themselves?
That's a good point. Some insurance companies refuse coverage if you injured while participating in a dangerous activity like motorcycling, horseback riding and skiing, but you're covered if you're driving drunk. The military can refuse to cover your medical costs if you're not wearing a sealbelt/helmet because they just write a standing order you have to obey the local laws.
The advocates like to trot out the "burden to society" argument that Cat brought up even though a fractionally smaller percentage of motorcyclist are un/under insured thand car drivers.
 

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
slotted said:
I like riding in these.
:lol: When I was in Hawaii, I saw a guy go zipping down the street in flip flops and cutoffs. An elderly gentleman pulled out of his driveway in front of him. The guy on the bike (speeding) managed to miss the car but he dropped it and slid down the road. Looked like raw hamburger man :yikes:
 

slotted

New Member
aps45819 said:
:lol: When I was in Hawaii, I saw a guy go zipping down the street in flip flops and cutoffs. An elderly gentleman pulled out of his driveway in front of him. The guy on the bike (speeding) managed to miss the car but he dropped it and slid down the road. Looked like raw hamburger man :yikes:


Yeah, I dread when that day comes, but I'm still more comfortable riding in shorts and flops. Not so much more now, mornings and evenings are starting to have a slight chill.
 

cattitude

My Sweetest Boy
aps45819 said:

But you QUOTED me and I didn't say what was in the quotes. People do that all the time...quote you but it's not what you really said or they take it out of context.

aps45819 said:
I thought someone introduced us by the pool table. I didn't stay very long.

They did. I was just being a smart-azz.. You hadn't said it was nice to meet me before today. :lol:
 

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
slotted said:
Yeah, I dread when that day comes, but I'm still more comfortable riding in shorts and flops. Not so much more now, mornings and evenings are starting to have a slight chill.
It ain't the fall, it's the slide.

The fall from a bike doing 60 is the same as one sitting still on the sidestand, gravity is a constant. It's what happens after you hit that fyuks you up.
 

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
cattitude said:
But you QUOTED me and I didn't say what was in the quotes. People do that all the time...quote you but it's not what you really said or they take it out of context.
Post #7
 

Tigerlily

Luvin Life !!!
slotted said:
Yeah, I dread when that day comes, but I'm still more comfortable riding in shorts and flops. Not so much more now, mornings and evenings are starting to have a slight chill.


I saw you cruisin up 5 the other day and you looked very cool and comfortable. Just love that mohawk!!!
 

bedazzle

New Member
Helmet laws restrict freedom. But so to traumatic brain injuries and wheelchairs. Riders who don't wear helmets are less likely to have health insurance resulting in the cost being forced on to taxpayers.

Death is one thing, the cost of a funeral is nothing compared to the cost of long-term disability and medical expenses.
 
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