CrashTest
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True dat. Selling those big decals to azzhats results in guilt by association regardless of whether it's deserved or not.
Hollyrock Diesel Douchebags - step in
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True dat. Selling those big decals to azzhats results in guilt by association regardless of whether it's deserved or not.
SG_Player1974
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@04dmaxed
I think you need to go back and read JosepIV's posts again. NOWHERE in any of them does he directly refer to you, your workers, or your family as "douchebags." That is, unless they are the ones who are driving the trucks with your company logo on them and acting like azz-clowns on the roads!
The point I believe they were trying to make is that the big, fat sticker that represents YOUR business will always be associated with the azzhats that act like idiots on the road and YES.... to me that does get associated with you!
If I were to drive by your business, the FIRST thing that would come to mind is "Hey... thats the place that modifies the trucks that are driven by A-holes around here!"
I believe the negative remarks in ALL of the posts were directed at the drivers of such vehicles. The only reference I see to you or your company was a suggestion to tell your clientel that they are being noticed with their stupid antics on the local roads and that it could possibly reflect badly on your company.
I believe you need to go back and re-read the ENTIRE posts and let it sink in before raging on and making assumptions!
I think you need to go back and read JosepIV's posts again. NOWHERE in any of them does he directly refer to you, your workers, or your family as "douchebags." That is, unless they are the ones who are driving the trucks with your company logo on them and acting like azz-clowns on the roads!
The point I believe they were trying to make is that the big, fat sticker that represents YOUR business will always be associated with the azzhats that act like idiots on the road and YES.... to me that does get associated with you!
If I were to drive by your business, the FIRST thing that would come to mind is "Hey... thats the place that modifies the trucks that are driven by A-holes around here!"
I believe the negative remarks in ALL of the posts were directed at the drivers of such vehicles. The only reference I see to you or your company was a suggestion to tell your clientel that they are being noticed with their stupid antics on the local roads and that it could possibly reflect badly on your company.
I believe you need to go back and re-read the ENTIRE posts and let it sink in before raging on and making assumptions!
sockgirl77
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We've needed a thread like this for awhile. 
MMM_donuts
New Member
Every time one of these threads comes up someone says that public shaming is ineffective. I would like to point out that a friend and former coworker was publicly called out on this forum years ago for his inconsiderate driving and personally identifiable vehicle and we STILL give him a really hard time about it. Relentlessly.
SG_Player1974
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I think that this thread worked out quite well....
Somehow, someway... the owner of the company was notified of this thread, took the time to log on (again), and responded!
Too bad they totally misread the post and misunderstood what the OP was trying to say BUT, at least the system worked right?
MMM_donuts
New Member
Also, I would like to add that I thought the Redskin HollyRock lady did a good job of mitigating the whole business reputation thing....until the business came in and lost all of my respect for them with their catty post. IMO, it actually contributed to the douchiness impression.
I agree with others that have stated multiple times the OP clearly posted his disdain for the behavior of the vehicle drivers and in no way attributed blame to the actual business or business owner.
I agree with others that have stated multiple times the OP clearly posted his disdain for the behavior of the vehicle drivers and in no way attributed blame to the actual business or business owner.
migtig
aka Mrs. Giant
SG_Player1974
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Business owner and/or employee and/or family member = Offending driver? 
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ICit
Jam out with ur clam out
That she did.
...... OMG i had it wrong the whole time.....I knew that nail polish was real....
bcp
In My Opinion
If you owned the business, would you be pissed at people implying that you had something to do with the azzhats?
Maybe you should all blame GM, after all, thats where the trucks come from originally right?
JosephIV
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I guess you have pen and paper on you when you're driving? I guess you use your x-ray vision to see through clouds of tire and diesel smoke? I guess you'd fly down the road to chase the culprit down, in essence, behaving as badly as them? You'd break new laws by dialing police on your cell? I'll work harder to be more like you in the future. As I stated, I had a prior commitment, it was the only reason that I didn't make an attempt to get the tag and report the truck.
Here are the FACTS: I was behind a GREEN GMC with a Hollyrock Diesel sticker on it. It was an extended cab with a stack through the bed and stock 2500 series aluminum wheels on it. It did a brake stand burnout, smoking out those of us behind it. Those are the FACTS. I've witnessed two white GM trucks with Hollyrock Decals on the back acting up at different times. The last time was months ago heading down to Sheetz at the end of Great Mills. Finally, I've seen a black truck acting up on 235 with a Hollyrock Decal on it but that was a year ago or so. Have also seen a black Duramax on 235 with no apparent decal acting up and various Dodges and Fords that I can't say had the decal.
I am computer literate. I found your info on the internet, found your name and your (I'm assuming) wife's name. I didn't bring your name into it. Did you not notice that? I also stated that your business is getting a blackmark put on it by the people who are pissing the rest of us off while proudly displaying that HOLLYROCK built or tuned their redneck wet dream. I don't need your services. I don't want your services. I don't know you. I don't know if you are a d#ck or a great guy. I'd give you and almost anyone a chance. When you advertise your business on the back of trucks doing burnouts, smoke shows, and drag races around me, my family, and others with loved ones in broad daylight and traffic I'm inclined to believe that you don't give a sh$t about your supposed good name and reputation. I've gotten services from great tuners and speed shops with sterling reputations. None of which would let some asshats with self control issues misbehave while rocking their banner. That's integrity.
If you don't want the business name of HOLLYROCK associated with douchebags then YOU the PROPRIETER must do something about it. Go talk to the kid with the Emerald Green '04 or so GMC extended cab. Talk to the rejects in the white trucks. I'll try my best to get a plate number next time. In the meantime, how about you get a bit more selective concerning the character of those who represent you? Peace to you Mike, it sucks to have your work diminished by those who benefitted from it. At the end of the day, do you give a crap about people with your nitrous kit, propane injection install, or tune acting up on public streets endangering others while advertising your business? What is your character and level of concern? Unless you and your family have driven the trucks that have acted like douchebags I've never called you a douche. Re-read my posts and try to comprehend them for a change instead of viewing it all as a personal attack.
In the end, there are literally thousands of people on 235 and other local roads that may unfortunately associate the Hollyrock name with idiocy. That's not my fault. What will YOU do about it? Tell your douchebag customers and/or friends (not implying that all of your buddies and customers are douchebags) to either gain some self control or peel your decal off of the back window if you think they are besmirching your "good name". It's that easy. It would show integrity.
BTW, you can PM or "Private Message" people on here in case you weren't aware. Just saying.
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MMM_donuts
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My respect comes from displays of professionalism and professionalism is keeping your cool in challenging situations.
And no, again, I don't think the OP said anything bad about the actual business. Rather, he suggested the business owner consider the impact of being associated with this behavior IF he is doing it voluntarily. Or at least that's how I understood it when I read it.
MMM_donuts
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Oh no....did I just.....is HollyRock a male poster?
JosephIV
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It's not the same thing. When you have a business that makes 6,800 lb trucks run 11 second quarter miles that's fine. When they can achieve over 130 MPH because you removed or raised the speed limiter that's fine. When you hand the keys to this beast back to its immature owner that's fine too. When that immature owner gets a HUGE decal advertising your business then proceeds to act like a jackass while abusing the newfound power on a public road it's not fine. Your business and name takes a hit. That's how public perception works. If you don't like it then talk to your customers or start getting selective about who can display your decal. Trademark the name, own the decals, only put them on trucks of owners who aren't douchebags. Show some backbone.
migtig
aka Mrs. Giant
As Icit pointed out, he wears nail polish. 
Seriously though, I think he's comfortable enough in his masculinity that it isn't an issue.
I just thought it was funny as heck.
MMM_donuts
New Member
Seriously though, I think he's comfortable enough in his masculinity that it isn't an issue.
I just thought it was funny as heck.
Poop. Ok. I don't have any real reason for thinking he was female, I just read it that way.....which probably has more to do with his redskin avatar than anything he said or how he said it...
MMM_donuts
New Member
HollyrockJT,
Sorry for wrongly referring to you as a female....
Sorry for wrongly referring to you as a female....
bcp
In My Opinion
So,,, A business should somehow determine who the douchebags will be, maybe a douchebag test or something? and only give the stickers to those that can prove not to be a douchebag?
Should car manufacturers do the same and take their logo off of the vehicle if the person buying it seems like they might be a douchebag?
there goes all the BMW emblems..
blazinlow89
Big Poppa
Was talking to a guy at work today about the thread, he said he seen white Chevy or GMC driving like a douche yesterday. Weaving through lanes with no signal, tailgating and spinning tires.