Holocaust deniers, yes; inciters of violence, no

[DLScott]

Big difference from stating your opinion and defaming someone


The Covington Kids Proved this .... they are LIED About, defamed and vilified FOR SOMETHING THAT NEVER HAPPENED

You do not listen to NPR do you, that is EXACTLY what NPR do

You do not listen to NPR do you, that is EXACTLY what NPR does

I try to grab news from all the sources. The job/ training I had in the military required that I had exceptional reading and comprehension skills. All news is biased , it’s that human component. You can tell when someone or a news article is full of bull crap.

 

[DLScott]

I try to grab news from all the sources. The job/ training I had in the military required that I had exceptional reading and comprehension skills. All news is biased , it’s that human component. You can tell when someone or a news article is full of bull crap.

That being said, I doubt you paid attention when they did clean up their act for a while, because they were threatened.

 

[Kyle]

I love it when they post to themselves.

 

[DLScott]

I love it when they post to themselves.

Because it violates some middle school norm?

 

[LightRoasted]

If I may ...

I try to grab news from all the sources. The job/ training I had in the military required that I had exceptional reading and comprehension skills. All news is biased , it’s that human component. You can tell when someone or a news article is full of bull crap.

Not responding to the new MPD idiot here, but to the class. No one, that has ever served, that I know, myself included, has ever referred to time in service as a "job". It is always referenced as a MOS, (Military Occupational Specialty). Like asking someone what they did in the Army, they would say, 11B, Infantryman, or 19D, Recon. Dead giveaway the the new guy is a lying sack of wet cow manure.

 

[DLScott]

Because it violates some middle school norm?

Or is it because it confuses the engineers? Ooops I did it again… bad me.

 

[DLScott]

If I may ...


Not responding to the new MPD idiot here, but to the class. No one, that has ever served, that I know, myself included, has ever referred to time in service as a "job". It is always referenced as a MOS, (Military Occupational Specialty). Like asking someone what they did in the Army, they would say, 11B, Infantryman, or 19D, Recon. Dead giveaway the the new guy is a lying sack of wet cow manure.

Hahahahahahaha I call bullshit

 

[DLScott]

If I may ...


Not responding to the new MPD idiot here, but to the class. No one, that has ever served, that I know, myself included, has ever referred to time in service as a "job". It is always referenced as a MOS, (Military Occupational Specialty). Like asking someone what they did in the Army, they would say, 11B, Infantryman, or 19D, Recon. Dead giveaway the the new guy is a lying sack of wet cow manure.

I try not to sound like an aged out has been. But you’re Army, so that’s where the disconnect and problem is.

 

[TPD]

Yeah, now you've lost me

It lost me when it claimed to be a Catholic and then said that no one pays attention to the pope.

 

[DLScott]

Your world view is so cute….

 

[SamSpade]

So what are your thoughts on "free speech"? Completely free, or should there be some limits?

I do pay for The Daily Wire and it’s a good article. He posits - after eliciting responses from the Freedom Forum - nine basic restrictions on Free Speech.

Obscenity - Fighting Words - Defamation - Child Pornography - Perjury - Blackmail - Incitement to imminent lawless action - True threats - Solicitation to commit crimes.

Most of these are already crimes we’re familiar with and we agree upon their restrictive nature. One or two, maybe some nuances of the law. Fighting words, for instance. When ARE they fighting words? But by and large, all of us recognize there are some forms of expression that ARE crimes and as such should be restricted.

 

[SamSpade]

Basically unless it’s illegal, it’s OK.

Like Ken said sometimes “there are consequences” to what you say, but you get to say it.

As Yakov Smirnoff used to say, in Russia we HAVE freedom of speech; in America you have freedom AFTER speech.

If a form of expression is ILLEGAL then it’s already been declared “ not free “. Consequences that translate to jail time means “not free” just as surely as criticizing the government in Russia have consequences that are “not free “.

I’m unclear on the legality of “fighting words “. I do know if you step into a biker bar and shout that they’re all a buncha queers, you might not be arrested for fighting words but you also will get no case to the judge for the ass-kicking you get.

 

[Kyle]

Smells like that Sappy guy is back.

Aka: The Forum Herpes Outbreak

 

[Kyle]

Fighting words, for instance. When ARE they fighting words?

Yeah, I've always thought that was one they pulled out of their ass.

That phrase can be interpreted by a hundred people with a hundred different answers.

If their threshold is low enough, anything can be fighting words.

 

[GURPS]

I guess you don’t want to know what I think of the spoiled underage psycho brat that went to Kenosha, and had no business being there, because he was looking for trouble.

Yeah Ok Sapidus

 

[SamSpade]

Yeah, I've always thought that was one they pulled out of their ass.

That phrase can be interpreted by a hundred people with a hundred different answers.

If their threshold is low enough, anything can be fighting words.

I'm guessing there exists an actual legal framework upon which it does and doesn't work. Otherwise, you're right - I understand that Dave Chappelle's attacker claims he was "triggered" by his anti-trans stance.

I know that the legal requirement for defamation is all over the place, depending on whether or not the one defamed is a public offiicial or private person. Generally, to be defamation it has to be intentional, the person defaming must KNOW it is false and in some instances, the one charging must prove that malice was intended.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

I guess you don’t want to know what I think of the spoiled underage psycho brat that went to Kenosha, and had no business being there, because he was looking for trouble.

Stop defending idiots because it fits your narrative.

You mean the one that got the bullet through his arm? Pretty sure he was in his 20s.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

If I may ...


Not responding to the new MPD idiot here, but to the class. No one, that has ever served, that I know, myself included, has ever referred to time in service as a "job". It is always referenced as a MOS, (Military Occupational Specialty). Like asking someone what they did in the Army, they would say, 11B, Infantryman, or 19D, Recon. Dead giveaway the the new guy is a lying sack of wet cow manure.

I know at least one active duty sailor that refers to it as their job. Struck me as a little weird, but not that much.

 

[vraiblonde]

I know that the legal requirement for defamation is all over the place, depending on whether or not the one defamed is a Democrat or Republican.

Fixed that for ya......

These days they Democrats think everything they don't like is "fighting words". They can call people every ugly name in the book, accuse them of the most ridiculous misdeeds, scream and yell and defame and lie; but the second anyone answers them back they fall on their fainting couch all offended.

You see the punks on here do it all the time - come out of the gate with name calling and snide remarks, and when they get answered in kind they're all like, "Oh how dare you! "

I do lean toward letting people express themselves however they want, within reason, and let the peer review run its course. If someone posts something ugly racist I'll get requests to delete it and I'm like, nope - they have to own it and take their lumps. If it's too graphic or disgusting I'll delete it but generally I think people should be able to show the world what they are.

 

[RoseRed]

Smells like that Sappy guy is back.

What do you think I could get for my RBF?