Honest Opinion and/or Insight

lnmarsh

Love * Luck * Faith
Sorry guys, but this is a long one...

My boyfriend and I have been together for over 4 years. We started dating when I was 18 and he was 21; we're now 22 and 25 respectively. We've been through a lot together in these 4 years... Along with the trials of every day life, growing up and becoming an adult, we've dealt with a year-long long-distance relationship (I met him when he was in the Marine Corps and he was stationed in NC), we've been through one deployment together, his subsequent injuries, surgeries, and ongoing recoveries. He was with me the night my horse died. We made a baby together... he was with me when we found out she had died at 12 weeks 6 days. He stayed by my side through my subsequent surgery and recovery. We've fought through that pain of losing the baby together. We've had A LOT of good times together, of course. But we have also had our fair share of the bad along with the good.

Now don’t get me wrong - things between him and I havnt always been rainbows and butterflies. We've had some massive fights, taken "breaks" (never lasted very long), etc. Most of it had to do with the fact that we were so young when we met and we both had a lot of maturing to do. The last "big" thing that had gone wrong in our actual relationship happened well over a year ago. Despite losing the baby in May of this year, we have been doing just fine. No true arguments (if we disagree on something we talk it out), no sleepless nights, no not-answering-the-phone-because-your're-mad, etc. We've just been doing good and really been enjoying being together. Lately, however, he has been acting a little strange. He seems distant. We spend tons of time together. He's not avoiding me. I know that by me saying "he seems distant" some may automatically think he is seeing someone else and/or has a guilt conscience because he has slept with someone else, etc. However I know my boyfriend... one of his best qualities is honesty and faithfulness. He has always been honest with me about everything, even if he knows it will hurt me. Im not worried about him seeing someone else... when I say "he seems distant," I mean that recently (within the past 2 months) hes been treating me more like a friend than a girlfriend. He dosnt put his arm around me when we sleep. He dosnt say "Hey baby" or "I love you" on the phone like he used to... he dosnt call me as much as he used to just to talk. Its to the point now that I am afraid to hug him in public because I am afraid he will push me away. I dont even think he realizes he is doing it... I think its a subconscious thing. Im not sure how to explain it.

Well we went camping together for the first time this past weekend. We had an absolute blast, just him me and the dog. But I dont think he kissed me not one time. So two nights ago I asked him if we could talk. I asked him if I had done something to make him mad. He said no, like I figured he would. I asked him if he was questioning our relationship. He said yes; like I figured he would. While I was expecting that answer, I wasnt nearly as prepared for it as I thought and I got very upset. He explained to me that he is sure that he loves me, that he always has and always will. He just isnt sure if we're meant to be together in the long run. Hes not sure if we're too much alike or just too different. He said that hes been treating us as more of a friendship in his mind, and its making him worry less and subsequently making him happier because he isnt stressed about our relationship. I told him I can tell the difference in the way he acts, and that I dont know why he would be questioning us if he loves me like he says he does. He says that him questioning the relationship dosnt mean that we're not together right now, but he just "needs to figure some things out." Hes not sure if he can get over things that have happened in the past.

Ever since we had that little talk two nights ago, he has kind of been avoiding me. Im worried that I got his mind working in bad ways; Im worried that hes thinking he should just call it quits. He has to work tonight so I wont get to see him, and he will be in DC from Thursday - Sunday for his Marine Corps reunion. The earliest I would be able to see him and actually talk to him is Sunday night, if he makes it home relatively early.

Here's what I am specifically asking for opinions on... Should I be worried that he'll call the whole thing off between him and I? Do you think I should just not text and/or call him this weekend and give him time to chill out, or should I continue to text him when I get off work, etc? Do you think his time away from me this weekend will help in the sense that he may miss me... or do you think it will fuel his questioning/indecisiveness? Should I be worried, or do you think him being away from me and having time to miss me is a good thing?

I am looking for honest opinions and/or insight on my situation. I know this is an open forum and so anyone can post anything, but I am asking those who read this to refrain from any smart @$$ remarks, etc. Im not asking people to sugarcoat things, but please try to keep any "useless" info (i.e. saying "Just leave him" w/o explanation, etc) to yourselves.

I feel rather ridiculous posting my business out there like this... I just cant stop thinking about it and could use some insight from complete 3rd parties. Thank you everyone

EDIT: I forgot to include some things that he said that really fuels my confusion on the whole ordeal. When we were talking he said that he loves me. He loves me more than hes ever loved anyone else and he always will love me. He wants to grow old with me and have babies and make a life together. He loves the great times we've had together and wants to create more good memories. Hes just not sure that we're compatable; hes not sure if we're too alike or too different.

Thats the part that makes no sense to me... Im so confused. If he loves me like he says he does (and hes not the type to sugarcoat things to make it easier on people, including me) and wants to grow old with me and make a life together, then any is he questioning things? What is there to question?! I, personally, think he is "waiting for the other shoe to drop." He was really thrown through a loop when I miscarried... And now we've been doing really well but between the baby and other things that happened in the past, he's just stuck on waiting for something bad to happen.
 
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Should I be worried that he'll call the whole thing off between him and I? Do you think I should just not text and/or call him this weekend and give him time to chill out, or should I continue to text him when I get off work, etc? Do you think his time away from me this weekend will help in the sense that he may miss me... or do you think it will fuel his questioning/indecisiveness? Should I be worried, or do you think him being away from me and having time to miss me is a good thing?
My full blown opinion...

You asking direct questions and getting the direct answers that you received but didn't want to hear did not make him start thinking negatively about your relationship. Whether or not you call/text him won't have a direct impact on his final decision as to whether or not he wants to grow old with you. Whether or not you worry about it won't affect his true feelings or the outcome. If after 4 full years of life with you he has come to the conclusion that you are not "the one", nothing you can say or do can change that in the long run. Even if you convince him to stay with you longer out of guilt you will most likely just be avoiding the inevitable.

You are young. Cut your losses now and move on with your life.
 

K_Jo

Pea Brain
PREMO Member
Just give him some space to work things out in his head. Don't text him or call him. Give him an opportunity to think and to miss you. You two have been through a lot and he probably just needs some time to himself. And when he gets home Sunday, make sure your legs are shaved and you smell good!
 

lovinmaryland

Well-Known Member
WOW! You two have been through so much together, a lot more than people who have been married for several years have. I would really hate for you all to go your seperate ways. :frown:

Before you said that he was questioning the relationship that is what my vibe was... he was considering you more as a friend than as a girlfriend/spouse/partner.

I think it may have somethign to do with losing your child. Did you all ever receive counseling for this? If not I would suggest that you two go to counseling.

I hope things work out for you two :huggy:
 

hotmomma

mmmmhmmmmm
I would let him know that you are available to talk anytime he wants but you are going to give him the space and time he needs to think about your relationship. Don't call or text him.

If he is done with the relationship there is nothing you can do or say to change it.
 

K_Jo

Pea Brain
PREMO Member
WOW! You two have been through so much together, a lot more than people who have been married for several years have. I would really hate for you all to go your seperate ways. :frown:

Before you said that he was questioning the relationship that is what my vibe was... he was considering you more as a friend than as a girlfriend/spouse/partner.

I think it may have somethign to do with losing your child. Did you all ever receive counseling for this? If not I would suggest that you two go to counseling.

I hope things work out for you two :huggy:

Ooh, that's good advice! You're smart!
 

lovinmaryland

Well-Known Member
My full blown opinion...

You asking direct questions and getting the direct answers that you received but didn't want to hear did not make him start thinking negatively about your relationship. Whether or not you call/text him won't have a direct impact on his final decision as to whether or not he wants to grow old with you. Whether or not you worry about it won't affect his true feelings or the outcome. If after 4 full years of life with you he has come to the conclusion that you are not "the one", nothing you can say or do can change that in the long run. Even if you convince him to stay with you longer out of guilt you will most likely just be avoiding the inevitable.

You are young. Cut your losses now and move on with your life.

Awww :bawl: Normally I would suggest this, but this particular couple has been through so much.

You dont think his questioning of the relationship may have something to do with the death of their child? That has to be the most traumatic thing to go through.
 

libertytyranny

Dream Stealer
Heres what I think, for whatever it is worth :killingme


Babies make men nervous. I am dealing with this myself, as it was not our timeline to have a baby at the moment. He may feel, (and I will explain why I think this in a moment) that losing the baby was some kind of "sign." Ridiculous? yes. But my SO's ex had a miscarriage (they didn't know she was pregnant) andhe told me later he had doubts about their relationship, and that had "sealed" it for him. Because he said he felt relief (as well as sadness) but that made him realize to be with her if she had the baby, would have made him unhappy.

Also, it could just be regular ole' cold feet. Babies make you question everything, even just the idea of one. And future, and growing up, and being responsible for someone other than yourself.


I would tell him that if he feels unsure, he is free to do as he wishes. and be prepared for him to walk away. Personally, I detest the thought of being a hanger-oner and wouldn't want to continue to try to keep someone with doubts that much. Let him know you love him and would like to continue your relationship (assuming you do) and he can call you if he feels the same way. It's hard, but if he walks away, you still have your dignity, if he doesn't you at least gave him the time and space to consider it.
 

PrepH4U

New Member
Sorry guys, but this is a long one...

My boyfriend and I have been together for over 4 years. We started dating when I was 18 and he was 21; we're now 22 and 25 respectively. We've been through a lot together in these 4 years... Along with the trials of every day life, growing up and becoming an adult, we've dealt with a year-long long-distance relationship (I met him when he was in the Marine Corps and he was stationed in NC), we've been through one deployment together, his subsequent injuries, surgeries, and ongoing recoveries. He was with me the night my horse died. We made a baby together... he was with me when we found out she had died at 12 weeks 6 days. He stayed by my side through my subsequent surgery and recovery. We've fought through that pain of losing the baby together. We've had A LOT of good times together, of course. But we have also had our fair share of the bad along with the good.

Now don’t get me wrong - things between him and I havnt always been rainbows and butterflies. We've had some massive fights, taken "breaks" (never lasted very long), etc. Most of it had to do with the fact that we were so young when we met and we both had a lot of maturing to do. The last "big" thing that had gone wrong in our actual relationship happened well over a year ago. Despite losing the baby in May of this year, we have been doing just fine. No true arguments (if we disagree on something we talk it out), no sleepless nights, no not-answering-the-phone-because-your're-mad, etc. We've just been doing good and really been enjoying being together. Lately, however, he has been acting a little strange. He seems distant. We spend tons of time together. He's not avoiding me. I know that by me saying "he seems distant" some may automatically think he is seeing someone else and/or has a guilt conscience because he has slept with someone else, etc. However I know my boyfriend... one of his best qualities is honesty and faithfulness. He has always been honest with me about everything, even if he knows it will hurt me. Im not worried about him seeing someone else... when I say "he seems distant," I mean that recently (within the past 2 months) hes been treating me more like a friend than a girlfriend. He dosnt put his arm around me when we sleep. He dosnt say "Hey baby" or "I love you" on the phone like he used to... he dosnt call me as much as he used to just to talk. Its to the point now that I am afraid to hug him in public because I am afraid he will push me away. I dont even think he realizes he is doing it... I think its a subconscious thing. Im not sure how to explain it.

Well we went camping together for the first time this past weekend. We had an absolute blast, just him me and the dog. But I dont think he kissed me not one time. So two nights ago I asked him if we could talk. I asked him if I had done something to make him mad. He said no, like I figured he would. I asked him if he was questioning our relationship. He said yes; like I figured he would. While I was expecting that answer, I wasnt nearly as prepared for it as I thought and I got very upset. He explained to me that he is sure that he loves me, that he always has and always will. He just isnt sure if we're meant to be together in the long run. Hes not sure if we're too much alike or just too different. He said that hes been treating us as more of a friendship in his mind, and its making him worry less and subsequently making him happier because he isnt stressed about our relationship. I told him I can tell the difference in the way he acts, and that I dont know why he would be questioning us if he loves me like he says he does. He says that him questioning the relationship dosnt mean that we're not together right now, but he just "needs to figure some things out." Hes not sure if he can get over things that have happened in the past.

Ever since we had that little talk two nights ago, he has kind of been avoiding me. Im worried that I got his mind working in bad ways; Im worried that hes thinking he should just call it quits. He has to work tonight so I wont get to see him, and he will be in DC from Thursday - Sunday for his Marine Corps reunion. The earliest I would be able to see him and actually talk to him is Sunday night, if he makes it home relatively early.

Here's what I am specifically asking for opinions on... Should I be worried that he'll call the whole thing off between him and I? Do you think I should just not text and/or call him this weekend and give him time to chill out, or should I continue to text him when I get off work, etc? Do you think his time away from me this weekend will help in the sense that he may miss me... or do you think it will fuel his questioning/indecisiveness? Should I be worried, or do you think him being away from me and having time to miss me is a good thing?

I am looking for honest opinions and/or insight on my situation. I know this is an open forum and so anyone can post anything, but I am asking those who read this to refrain from any smart @$$ remarks, etc. Im not asking people to sugarcoat things, but please try to keep any "useless" info (i.e. saying "Just leave him" w/o explanation, etc) to yourselves.

I feel rather ridiculous posting my business out there like this... I just cant stop thinking about it and could use some insight from complete 3rd parties. Thank you everyone

If you are second guessing your relationship and putting all of this out here, I think you know the answer.
My only advice is to give him that 4 day reunion break, do not text him, do not answer his calls. Take this break for your own soul searching.
 

Nanny Pam

************
Give him all the space he needs.

Set him free. If he comes back, he's yours and if he doesn't come back, he never was.
JMO

...and I'm old and have lots of experience with this kinda stuff. (just like Prep) :yay:
 
Awww :bawl: Normally I would suggest this, but this particular couple has been through so much.

You dont think his questioning of the relationship may have something to do with the death of their child? That has to be the most traumatic thing to go through.

No.

From the way she wrote it, she miscarried at 12 weeks, 6 days. That is different than losing a baby that was born and then died at 12 weeks 6 days old. So rather than think he is traumatized by losing a child, I see it as him being hit with the reality that he really doesn't see himself with her 18 years later raising a child into adulthood.
 
Heres what I think, for whatever it is worth :killingme


Babies make men nervous. I am dealing with this myself, as it was not our timeline to have a baby at the moment. He may feel, (and I will explain why I think this in a moment) that losing the baby was some kind of "sign." Ridiculous? yes. But my SO's ex had a miscarriage (they didn't know she was pregnant) andhe told me later he had doubts about their relationship, and that had "sealed" it for him. Because he said he felt relief (as well as sadness) but that made him realize to be with her if she had the baby, would have made him unhappy.

Also, it could just be regular ole' cold feet. Babies make you question everything, even just the idea of one. And future, and growing up, and being responsible for someone other than yourself.


I would tell him that if he feels unsure, he is free to do as he wishes. and be prepared for him to walk away. Personally, I detest the thought of being a hanger-oner and wouldn't want to continue to try to keep someone with doubts that much. Let him know you love him and would like to continue your relationship (assuming you do) and he can call you if he feels the same way. It's hard, but if he walks away, you still have your dignity, if he doesn't you at least gave him the time and space to consider it.

:dingding:
 

K_Jo

Pea Brain
PREMO Member
No.

From the way she wrote it, she miscarried at 12 weeks, 6 days. That is different than losing a baby that was born and then died at 12 weeks 6 days old. So rather than think he is traumatized by losing a child, I see it as him being hit with the reality that he really doesn't see himself with her 18 years later raising a child into adulthood.

Ohhhhhhh!
 

lovinmaryland

Well-Known Member
No.

From the way she wrote it, she miscarried at 12 weeks, 6 days. That is different than losing a baby that was born and then died at 12 weeks 6 days old. So rather than think he is traumatized by losing a child, I see it as him being hit with the reality that he really doesn't see himself with her 18 years later raising a child into adulthood.

Ok I read that as they had a child that was born and then died at 12 weeks 6 days.
 
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