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[fredsaid2]

Lets say for a minute that the hose in question was one and the same.

Doesn't it bother people here that the truth was misrepresented (to the extreme), not by and hour or so, but by half a day. I wonder where lips got her data?

But who knows, maybe there REALLY are 2 horses in the same prediciment on the same day getting the authorities called. Go figure!

The people in the development and the owner of the horse know the facts. The rest of us are just guessing or getting second hand info. Regardless of the specific timeframe, a horse appeared to a non-horse person to be in a questionable, perhaps unsafe circumstance. Someone called the authorities. Authorities investigated. Afterwards all went along their happy ways. No harm, no foul.

 

[mingiz]

The people in the development and the owner of the horse know the facts. The rest of us are just guessing or getting second hand info. Regardless of the specific timeframe, a horse appeared to a non-horse person to be in a questionable, perhaps unsafe circumstance. Someone called the authorities. Authorities investigated. Afterwards all went along their happy ways. No harm, no foul.

Some people just can't leave it at that they take it to personal :shrugr they just like the they cause.

 

[devinej]

i'd much rather the truth be "misrepresented" in favor of the horse rather than in favor of the human. Lips Sealed was trying to make sure that the horse was OK, being treated correctly. She/He Stated what they perceived. I'd rather make that error, than the other way around....

 

[appendixqh]

Interesting thread. My only input is that a non-horsey person asks a valid question, not knowing horse protocol and/or standard practices. For the sake of the horse, this question is posed...and then this person is attacked, borderline threatened, for asking a question. I don't think intimidating outsiders to mind their own business is what we want to portray as horse owners. I don't mind people questioning any of my practices, it incourages interaction and education. And if all we do is drive people to mind their own, then they may not make that really important call that could intervene in a neglect case. JMO

 

[CountryLady]

The people in the development and the owner of the horse know the facts. The rest of us are just guessing or getting second hand info. Regardless of the specific timeframe, a horse appeared to a non-horse person to be in a questionable, perhaps unsafe circumstance. Someone called the authorities. Authorities investigated. Afterwards all went along their happy ways. No harm, no foul.

UNsafe circumstances: do you or does anyone here call the authorities every time you witness someone speeding on the highway with kids in the car???? Or when you see someone drink an alcoholic beverage at a restaurant with dinner and when dinners done drive home???

I would imagine that most of us don't. Could you image the waste of tax payers’ dollars??

The point being is that HappyAppy is aware of a situation where animal control said that the caller reported that the horse was in the trailer from 6pm on the 4th of July until 10am on the 5th. It is quite a coincidence and remarkable if there were two horses in this predicament.

This OP lady says she’s a neighbor. All I am saying is why didn't she approach the neighbor with the horse first. Even a non-horsey person could rationalize the situation much better had they approached and talked to the horse owners. If they still felt uncomfortable, then call the authorities.

I guess it bothers me about all the conclusions people jump to not knowing the facts. Common sense tells me if it was a neighbor, be neighborly.
If you fail to see that, it justifies the comments you've made.

I know, I know, LETS NOT BRING COMMON SENSE INTO THIS!

But since you are a horse person:

Have you ever traveled with your horse and pulled into a hotel for the night?
If you have I am sure you would provide it with water and hay.
It would be the same thing.

If the OP Lady didn't approach the neighbor with the horse, my guess she also had NO idea as to whether it had food and water available.

FOOD FOR THOUGHT!

 

[CountryLady]

i'd much rather the truth be "misrepresented" in favor of the horse rather than in favor of the human. Lips Sealed was trying to make sure that the horse was OK, being treated correctly. She/He Stated what they perceived. I'd rather make that error, than the other way around....

LOL
Humans use bits and saddles in favor of the human not the horse?

 

[CountryLady]

EVERYONE HERE can agree that we all probably are concernd about care and mis treatment of horses.

Giving the OP the benifit of the doubt as to where she got her data from, that is why I asked.

Maybe another neighbor gave her the (wrong) information the one that called animal control.

But if that is the case, now we have 2 neighbors not being neighborly, and not approaching the horse owner to find out why there is a horse in the neighborhood.

I still believe that it is the same horse in question, not 2 different ones.

 

[fredsaid2]

But since you are a horse person:

Have you ever traveled with your horse and pulled into a hotel for the night?
If you have I am sure you would provide it with water and hay.
It would be the same thing.

I've never been in the situation of needing to keep my horse on a trailer unless we were in transit. After a show, regardless of the late hour, he was taken to the barn and his needs seen to before I headed home to bed.

Whatever you or Happy know or think you know, the person who called in the report did nothing wrong.

So we disagree on this, it's only an opinion. C'est la vie!

 

[HeavyChevy75]

I've never been in the situation of needing to keep my horse on a trailer unless we were in transit. After a show, regardless of the late hour, he was taken to the barn and his needs seen to before I headed home to bed.

I am the same. Horse gets taken care of first. Even if I am so tired that I can hardly keep my eyes open.

 

[happyappygirl]

I've never been in the situation of needing to keep my horse on a trailer unless we were in transit. After a show, regardless of the late hour, he was taken to the barn and his needs seen to before I headed home to bed.

Whatever you or Happy know or think you know, the person who called in the report did nothing wrong.

So we disagree on this, it's only an opinion. C'est la vie!

No one said we disagreed with having animal control called if the welfare of an animal was in question.

The issue is the horse was NOT left in a trailer from 6pm on the 4th, until 10:15 am on the 5th, as was stated. This i know to be a fact. Embellishment is a good thing?

 

[HeavyChevy75]

I didn't say it was wrong...I don't know all the details of what was going on.

 

[Cowgirl]

This OP lady says she’s a neighbor. All I am saying is why didn't she approach the neighbor with the horse first. Even a non-horsey person could rationalize the situation much better had they approached and talked to the horse owners. If they still felt uncomfortable, then call the authorities.

Right, because people who mistreat animals will readily admit that fact to someone.

 

[Duckz]

Interesting thread. My only input is that a non-horsey person asks a valid question, not knowing horse protocol and/or standard practices. For the sake of the horse, this question is posed...and then this person is attacked, borderline threatened, for asking a question. I don't think intimidating outsiders to mind their own business is what we want to portray as horse owners. I don't mind people questioning any of my practices, it incourages interaction and education. And if all we do is drive people to mind their own, then they may not make that really important call that could intervene in a neglect case. JMO

THANK YOU! Just now seeing this thread, and it really pisses me off. Happy Appy, get a freakin' life. Somebody who doesn't seem to know much about horses cared enough to ask about the welfare of an animal and you accuse her of embellishing the facts and filing false reports. Shouldn't we try to educate people rather than pointing fingers and alienating them? Personally I'd rather someone be concerned about a horse than look the other way when they think something sketchy might be going on. I can think of a couple people in this thread that post ridiculous things for the sake of drama and attention, and lips_sealed does not appear to be one of them.

 

[devinej]

Lips_Sealed i just wanted to THANK YOU for your concern about the welfare of a horse!!

country lady - your comments are uncalled for.

happy appy - your comments are also uncalled for.

i agree completely with duckz.

 

[Cowgirl]

The issue is the horse was NOT left in a trailer from 6pm on the 4th, until 10:15 am on the 5th, as was stated. This i know to be a fact. Embellishment is a good thing?

So you were there?

 

[Cowgirl]

Maybe you should stick with defending Rescue organizations that purposely dismiss aggressive traits of dogs so they can be labeled "Non-Issue"
:shrug:

Maybe you should stick your head up your ass. Maybe you need to get a life. Do you lurk the animal forums just waiting to be an ass?

 

[Cowgirl]

It seems your the only one making an ass, asking about something that was already answered.

Heres a clue you flucking twit, there is a button on the top called "New Posts", when its clicked it shows all the topics that have been discussed since your last visit.

I understand the concept can be daunting for someone of your mental capacity, kinda like how you tried to claim Krazd_Kat stated Unix wasnt part of Second Hope, when in reality she was informing people he was no longer with them (in order for that to occur he would have to be part of them) and that he put Second Hope in a dangerous positions because of DECISIONS he made about dogs.

Look, you half-brained, shiat-stirring waste of air, this is the last comment I'll make you to and then you're going on ignore. K_K stated that he'd NEVER had any authority with the rescue. Do you understand that? Maybe your tiny little pea brain can't comprehend that, because you keep making shiat up.

Have a great day!

 

[CountryLady]

I've never been in the situation of needing to keep my horse on a trailer unless we were in transit. After a show, regardless of the late hour, he was taken to the barn and his needs seen to before I headed home to bed.

Whatever you or Happy know or think you know, the person who called in the report did nothing wrong.

So we disagree on this, it's only an opinion. C'est la vie!

So, if you were in Transit, it would be ok to keep the horse on a trailer?

I guess it is where you draw the line, isn't it.

Ok, MAYBE the question should be asked thusly:
Is it EVER appropriate to house temporarly a horse in a horse trailer??????

I NEVER said by calling Animal Control that she did the wrong thing.

But there are different levels of right and wrong?

In a neighborhood where you may or may not know everyone on your street, most people do offer a friendly wave, acknowledging the neighbors. In that situation most folks would walk up or drive by to see what’s going on. Maybe if they had concerns ask some questions. Most concerns would probably be squelched, had they been asked. And WHAT I DID SAY was, after that point if the OP still felt there was a maltreatment issue, then call Animal Control.

It just not very neighborly to over exaggerate the truth (basically lie) to the authorities. BUT for some reason that seems to be acceptable here. IN FACT, these type of posts, lies and half truths, seem to get the most attention don't they.

TALKING TO THE NEIGHBOR FIRST WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE RIGHT THAN CALLING THE AUTHORITIES AND STRETCHING THE TRUTH ABOUT THE DETAILS. I think misrepresenting the truth to a law official is also against the law.

 

[CountryLady]

Right, because people who mistreat animals will readily admit that fact to someone.

And any reasonable person, even ones without horse knowledge, could have probably determined upon talking to the neighbor, that this horse was not being mistreated. It would have save people from the bad feeling by having the authorities called on them and having to refute lies.

 

[Spicober]

One thing is for sure, no one can ever call this a "helpful and informative" horse forum. You should have some tough skin posting on here. I can only IMAGINE what non-horse people think of the horse world reading this stuff! However entertaining you all are for the rest of us.