How do we fix this problem?

LightRoasted

If I may ...
For your consideration ...

Not on a bet. The Republicans suck almost as bad as the Democrats. The very last thing I want to do is sit around kaffee klatsching with a bunch of blowhards who are doing literally nothing to stem the tide of fascism, and are in fact contributing to it. I have no doubt the second I opened my mouth I would be escorted out the door, perhaps by a police officer. Have you ever been to one of those things? They're worthless.

Yup. I have. And, as it is here on the forums, at times, I'm not too popular. One of the problems is that they still worship Ronald Reagan. Even have his 11th Commandment posted on a wall, "Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican." Kinda hard to effect any change when one can't call out another Republican for not following their oath of office. But then, (I don't worship Reagan), that never stopped me from speaking my mind. Not to worry about speaking your mind though. As long as there are no threats of violence, you can speak your mind on any issue.

I have found, though, that there are sympathetic ears. Those that know and understand that there is too much BS going on and that they actually work on trying to rectify and change things. The point is to make it known that, you, and the people, will not tolerate things as they are anymore. Eventually these people do get weared down. After all, they, the members of the central committee, are elected themselves to their positions. These people are basically, the very first line of defense. Also know as the local grass roots level of the party.

And it's not like meeting at a bar and having arguments over some beers. It is a typical straight forward, Roberts Rules of Order, meeting. Called to order, previous meeting minutes gone over and approved. Old business, then new business, plans going forward and so on. Then the floor is open for any who wishes to speak. I'm pretty sure you would be able to handle such a situation. And, you might even be surprised at the total understanding people you would see there, and the agreements of your positions. You might be pleasantly surprised.

BTW. I've even called out Republicans as being RINO's, and have had agreement with many on the central committee. What's really funny, ironic, is that those RINO's never go to, or if, extremely rarely, attend any central committee meetings.

Also, you could throw your name in at the next election cycle to be voted onto the central committee. There, in that position, you could be the leader that you are and work to make changes at the local level, and beyond. But you have to start somewhere. Quit thinking it's a lost cause and that you can't effect change. Stop being self defeating. That is not the Vrai we all know and love. Be the change.

Writing in “A Defense of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America” in 1788, John Adams had this to say about the newly created founding documents of the United States government and of the states, “The United States of America have exhibited, perhaps the first example of governments erected on the simple principles of nature; and if men are now sufficiently enlightened to disabuse themselves of artifice, imposture, hypocrisy, and superstition, they will consider this event as an era in their history . . . Thirteen governments thus founded on the natural authority of the people alone, without a pretence of miracle or mystery, are a great point gained in favor of the rights of man.”
 

vraiblonde

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That is not the Vrai we all know and love. Be the change.

I am not snake oily enough for people to listen to. You've seen it on here - I frequently make a prediction based on a clear observation or on something I know for fact, and everyone's all like, "Meh meh meh, you don't know what you're talking about!" I've lost count of how many times I've "told you so". I am not a leader because I'm too blunt and don't have enough sugar to coat things and make them palatable to the masses. PTA moms and other self-important ignoramuses hate my guts. I could tell them the room is on fire, point to the flames, and they'd say I'm FOS and continue with their bloviating.

What I want to be is the brains behind the charismatic sugar sprinkler. My problem is that I hate those smarmy aholes and don't want them around me. So you can see my dilemma....
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
For your consideration ...

I am not snake oily enough for people to listen to. You've seen it on here - I frequently make a prediction based on a clear observation or on something I know for fact, and everyone's all like, "Meh meh meh, you don't know what you're talking about!" I've lost count of how many times I've "told you so". I am not a leader because I'm too blunt and don't have enough sugar to coat things and make them palatable to the masses. PTA moms and other self-important ignoramuses hate my guts. I could tell them the room is on fire, point to the flames, and they'd say I'm FOS and continue with their bloviating.

What I want to be is the brains behind the charismatic sugar sprinkler. My problem is that I hate those smarmy aholes and don't want them around me. So you can see my dilemma....

This is exactly what is needed. This is what real leaders do. Straight shooting logic and no BS dialogues. When people hear these types of people, they tend to gravitate to them, and, start themselves speaking their minds becasue there is a feeling of solidarity. All it takes is for a few people to start standing up and making logical arguments about changing and stopping the government overreach, then it spreads to others as they themselves start waking up.

I still think you're selling yourself short. The key here, is to simply be like a duck and let all the criticisms from the naysayers on your positions roll off and not to let them stress you. And when you do confront those smarmy aholes, you'll find that they have no logical responses, using only subterfuge and evasion in their replies.

Sometimes, one must step out of their comfort zone to effect change. Step out of your comfort zone. You don't have to be, or need to stand behind, a charismatic sugar sprinkler. Just speak form the heart, and be polite but firm in your convictions. That is what people yearn for.
 

vraiblonde

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PREMO Member
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That is what people yearn for.

They don't, though.

People make their own problems, why should I or anyone else step up to try and fix them? Especially when they don't really want their problem fixed and certainly won't lift a finger to help? What they want is to bitch about it because bitching takes no effort.

I can see why politicians are only there for the graft and will happily take advantage of their power. They probably got into office with all these high ideals and big dreams, only to find that voters are largely ridiculous idiots who want the impossible without any effort on their part, then want to bitch and cry over any solutions you come up with.

Fix the ghettos!
Okay, let's do these things to reduce crime and encourage decent living....
NOT LIKE THAT!! OMG you're so MEAN!!!

Reduce my taxes!

Okay, let's cut this and this and this.....
OMG you suck! You can't cut that or we'll all die!!

WHY AREN'T YOU FIXING THIS???


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My observation is that people don't really want to address issues or fix problems. They want to bitch and cry about problems, then be lulled by a smooth talker with a pretty speech who accomplishes literally nothing. Barack Obama comes to mind. Along comes Trump, that naive little cherub, going, "Okay, let's fix these problems..." and the people are all, "WAH!! You're mean! Sing me a lullaby! The last guy sang me lullabies!"

It's so common it's cliche on Reddit for OP to be all, "My boy/girlfriend does all these terrible abusive things, AITAH for not turning over my savings and paychecks to their personal bank account?" Posts in that vein are a dime a dozen. It doesn't occur to these people to dump the chump. "But maybe they'd be nicer if I bought them a house or had a baby or stopped seeing my friends and family or lost weight....."

:doh:

People are like that with their politicians, too. "Okay, we'll give you another term...but this time you have to do what you said you'd do!" "Okay, fine, here's another term....but this time we mean it, you have to do things!" It's just another abusive relationship, and people love abuse. They do. If they didn't, they wouldn't reward it - they'd dump the chump.

Human nature is a thing.
 
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