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[PsyOps]

Define absolute truth. I have been told by many different members of different faiths that what I believe is wrong because it differs from their beliefs.

1. I believe in God.
2. I believe there is a heaven and a hell.
3. I believe that heaven can be many different things to many different people. It can be the happiest moment of your life and you are in that moment for eternity. It can be as an angel-any type, take your pick. It can also be you want to be reincarnated for another life.
4. I believe that hell isn't fire and brimstone. Hell is the worst moment of your life and you are there for an eternity. To me, that would be hell. Not having my soul burn for an eternity because you broke one of the 10 commandments-one of which I do on almost a daily basis (THREE: 'You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.' ).

IF you believe in God (Yehweh) then you would know the definition of the absolute truth.

 

[ewashkow]

IF you believe in God (Yehweh) then you would know the definition of the absolute truth.

Since I have only been to church rarely at best(last time was with a friend a couple months ago, time before that was when my grandma died, time before that was when my grandpa died, time before that was when my parents were getting divorced, time before that probably for a short while after first communion), I don't know the meaning of absolute truth but I can look outside and know that humanity couldn't create the natural elements that I see. Man can't create a tree, earth, etc. which is why I believe. And I was wondering if absolute truth varies from each religion or not since each religion has different beliefs.

 

[PsyOps]

Since I have only been to church rarely at best(last time was with a friend a couple months ago, time before that was when my grandma died, time before that was when my grandpa died, time before that was when my parents were getting divorced, time before that probably for a short while after first communion), I don't know the meaning of absolute truth but I can look outside and know that humanity couldn't create the natural elements that I see. Man can't create a tree, earth, etc. which is why I believe. And I was wondering if absolute truth varies from each religion or not since each religion has different beliefs.

Actually my statement was a little misleading. I don't think we could know the absolute truth. We can define it in our belief in God though. God knows the absolute truth because HE IS the absolute truth.

 

[bcp]

Im telling you that its those darned homosexuals bringing us down.



well, them and the Jews.


maybe its the homosexual Jews?

through my karma I have just been informed that it is in fact the "Communist Republican Homosexual Jews" that are bringing us down.

the Communist part is a guess based on the fact that the politically correct individual that left the information for me did so in red, a clear indication that he/she was hinting at them being commies.

 

[Xaquin44]

Actually my statement was a little misleading. I don't think we could know the absolute truth. We can define it in our belief in God though. God knows the absolute truth because HE IS the absolute truth.

how can you call something absolute truth with no evidence/proof?

You don't know he is, you have faith that he is.

 

[PsyOps]

how can you call something absolute truth with no evidence/proof?

You don't know he is, you have faith that he is.

Without faith there is doubt. So what's the point in debating this? Attempting to tell a believer "you don't know he is" is like telling a non-believer "you don't know He isn't".

Evidence is in our faith.

 

[Xaquin44]

There is no evidence in faith.

Sorry, but if I have faith that the earth is flat, it doesn't make it so.

I will agree with you though that the beliver/non believer debate is pointless because there is no way to prove it.

 

[Xaquin44]

Hey, an intresting aside question.

Maybe better suited for the religion forum.



What if god came down and made a big show and everyone knew he existed?

There would be no more faith, because there would be proof. It would raise sooooo many questions.

 

[Kerad]

...at least we killed all the natives like jesus would have done.

 

[Kerad]

Hey, an intresting aside question.

Maybe better suited for the religion forum.



What if god came down and made a big show and everyone knew he existed?

There would be no more faith, because there would be proof. It would raise sooooo many questions.

Are you referencing the Babel Fish example from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy?

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Information and Much More from Answers.com

Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mind-bogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God. The argument goes something like this:

"I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."

"But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves that you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. Q.E.D."

"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.

(For the record, the HGTTG series by Douglas Adams is the greatest series of books ever written.)

 

[SamSpade]

(For the record, the HHGTTG series by Douglas Adams is the greatest series of books ever written.)

Oh you left out my favorite part of that bit - the VERY NEXT LINE.

"Oh, that was easy," says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.

 

[Xaquin44]

I've always liked his Dirk Gently stories better, but HHGTTG are incredible.

 

[Kerad]

Oh you left out my favorite part of that bit - the VERY NEXT LINE.

"Oh, that was easy," says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.

Sorry...I thought it may confuse the uninitiated. Not everybody "gets" Douglas Adams.

 

[Kerad]

I've always liked his Dirk Gently stories better, but HHGTTG are incredible.

You know...I never read those. Way back when, I picked up the first one, and it just wasn't "the same"...so I stopped after a few chapters. Then I just forgot about it.


Maybe a stop at Borders on the way home is in order.

 

[Xaquin44]

You know...I never read those. Way back when, I picked up the first one, and it just wasn't "the same"...so I stopped after a few chapters. Then I just forgot about it.


Maybe a stop at Borders on the way home is in order.

they are so good.

"Dennis Hutch had stepped up into the top seat when its founder had died of a lethal overdose of brick wall, taken while under the influence of a Ferrari and a bottle of tequila."

 

[SamSpade]

they are so good.

"Dennis Hutch had stepped up into the top seat when its founder had died of a lethal overdose of brick wall, taken while under the influence of a Ferrari and a bottle of tequila."

I've just been reading about "Salmon of Doubt" because I didn't know it was supposed to be a Dirk Gently novel. Presumably, it was going to tie BOTH series together.

 

[Kerad]

they are so good.

"Dennis Hutch had stepped up into the top seat when its founder had died of a lethal overdose of brick wall, taken while under the influence of a Ferrari and a bottle of tequila."

I just did some research. The book I put down after a few chapters was actually "Long Dark Teatime...". Maybe reading the sequel first led to my initial disappointment. :shrug:

I'm going to pick 'em up. "New" Douglas Adams!

 

[Xaquin44]

I honestly didn't like them as much when I red them the first time. After reading each a second and third time, I liked them more.


I may have to start all of his stuff again. It's been a couple years.