Hypothetical -- What Would You Do!

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Let's say you foster dogs for an organization and one day, with the organization's approval you take in kittens. Let's further say that for almost a year you pay for all the food and provide shelter for the foster dogs and cats and NEVER ask for any assistance from the organization. You take them for all their appointments, have people come to your home to see the animals, take the larger dogs to the dog park, etc. Let's also say that you have placed approximately 20 dogs for the organization in less than a year.
However:
When a dog appears to do something the president of the organization doesn't like. . . it becomes "your" dog!?! These activities can range from nipping a vet tech to "fence fighting"(?) or, even better, just being too large to handle.
When a kitten requires medical assistance to save it's life. . . it becomes "your" kitten. As "your" kitten you're responsible for the cost of this life saving procedure. The organization flat out refuses to pay.
Just remember that these dogs and kittens are still listed at the shelter under the name of the organization as the rescue, you've never signed an adoption form and the animals are available for adoption.
Well, I'm through venting and I'm on my way to pick up the kitten and pay the vet bill. . . All I can say to the organization is Shame on You!:howdy:
 
cattitude

cattitude

My Sweetest Boy
Unbelievable said:
Let's say you foster dogs for an organization and one day, with the organization's approval you take in kittens. Let's further say that for almost a year you pay for all the food and provide shelter for the foster dogs and cats and NEVER ask for any assistance from the organization. You take them for all their appointments, have people come to your home to see the animals, take the larger dogs to the dog park, etc. Let's also say that you have placed approximately 20 dogs for the organization in less than a year.
However:
When a dog appears to do something the president of the organization doesn't like. . . it becomes "your" dog!?! These activities can range from nipping a vet tech to "fence fighting"(?) or, even better, just being too large to handle.
When a kitten requires medical assistance to save it's life. . . it becomes "your" kitten. As "your" kitten you're responsible for the cost of this life saving procedure. The organization flat out refuses to pay.
Just remember that these dogs and kittens are still listed at the shelter under the name of the organization as the rescue, you've never signed an adoption form and the animals are available for adoption.
Well, I'm through venting and I'm on my way to pick up the kitten and pay the vet bill. . . All I can say to the organization is Shame on You!:howdy:
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So, how is this hypothetical?

I've done rescue both on my own and helping rescue organizations for many years. As a general rule, I spend much of my own money and I know that going in.

Most rescues that I have been associated with require you to use a vet that they deal with and if you choose to use a non-participating (for lack of a better word), then you have to pay or at least pay the difference. The rescues also require you to consult on procedures, etc. because it just may be out of their realm financially or ethically. If you then choose to 'save' the pet, I can see where it would become your responsibility...and I have done that.

Sounds like a misunderstanding to me or there is some of the story missing.
 
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cattitude said:
So, how is this hypothetical?

I've done rescue both on my own and helping rescue organizations for many years. As a general rule, I spend much of my own money and I know that going in.

Most rescues that I have been associated with require you to use a vet that they deal with and if you choose to use a non-participating (for lack of a better word), then you have to pay or at least pay the difference. The rescues also require you to consult on procedures, etc. because it just may be out of their realm financially or ethically. If you then choose to 'save' the pet, I can see where it would become your responsibility...and I have done that.

Sounds like a misunderstanding to me or there is some of the story missing.
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I don't mind spending my money. . . goodness knows I do it well. What I mind is the arbitrary nature of choosing what is or is not an animal worthy of saving . . . hypothetically, of course. All issues, of course, are misunderstandings or, obviously, they wouldn't be issues. Just asking for advice, hypothetically, of course, nothing more!:howdy:
Your response is very helpful because I just haven't been in this long enough to understand but I would have thought someone would have explained it all before and no one ever said anything. . . oh well, lesson learned.
 
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tes218

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Unbelievable said:
I don't mind spending my money. . . goodness knows I do it well. What I mind is the arbitrary nature of choosing what is or is not an animal worthy of saving . . . hypothetically, of course. All issues, of course, are misunderstandings or, obviously, they wouldn't be issues. Just asking for advice, hypothetically, of course, nothing more!:howdy:
Your response is very helpful because I just haven't been in this long enough to understand but I would have thought someone would have explained it all before and no one ever said anything. . . oh well, lesson learned.
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I believe that if you are rescuing for a rescue group under their name and they have authorized you to go to the shelter and select then they should back you up with your choices. If they don't want you to have the choice of what can and can't be rescued under their name then they should either make that clear to you in the very beginning or be the only ones allowed to make the selection. It is totally unfair to say you can rescue what you want but then not support you in the choice. If those that you select are adopted, they would surely expect the money to go to them. I'm guessing they would not say you can keep the money for what you get adopted to help cover your cost. Also, not right for them to say they will not take back a dog that was adopted through them if the foster home is no longer associated with them. The animals are associated with the organization and not the foster volunteers.

Medical work, food, general expenses should be covered by the group unless clearly stated. The bad part is when this only applies to certain members of the organization and not a rule across the board or when the procedures seem to change daily or on a case by case basis. :burning: :deepbreathnow:
 
SouthernMdRocks

SouthernMdRocks

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Unbelievable said:
Let's say you foster dogs for an organization and one day, with the organization's approval you take in kittens. Let's further say that for almost a year you pay for all the food and provide shelter for the foster dogs and cats and NEVER ask for any assistance from the organization. You take them for all their appointments, have people come to your home to see the animals, take the larger dogs to the dog park, etc. Let's also say that you have placed approximately 20 dogs for the organization in less than a year.
However:
When a dog appears to do something the president of the organization doesn't like. . . it becomes "your" dog!?! These activities can range from nipping a vet tech to "fence fighting"(?) or, even better, just being too large to handle.
When a kitten requires medical assistance to save it's life. . . it becomes "your" kitten. As "your" kitten you're responsible for the cost of this life saving procedure. The organization flat out refuses to pay.
Just remember that these dogs and kittens are still listed at the shelter under the name of the organization as the rescue, you've never signed an adoption form and the animals are available for adoption.
Well, I'm through venting and I'm on my way to pick up the kitten and pay the vet bill. . . All I can say to the organization is Shame on You!:howdy:
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Shame on them is right. You've done a terrific job caring for and placing all these dogs and kittens.
 
SouthernMdRocks

SouthernMdRocks

R.I.P. Bobo, We miss you!
Unbelievable said:
I don't mind spending my money. . . goodness knows I do it well. What I mind is the arbitrary nature of choosing what is or is not an animal worthy of saving . . . hypothetically, of course. All issues, of course, are misunderstandings or, obviously, they wouldn't be issues. Just asking for advice, hypothetically, of course, nothing more!:howdy:
Your response is very helpful because I just haven't been in this long enough to understand but I would have thought someone would have explained it all before and no one ever said anything. . . oh well, lesson learned.
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BTW, do you have a young lab available, doesn't have to be a pup. I got a call yesterday about one I have but someone at my work wants her.
 
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SouthernMdRocks said:
BTW, do you have a young lab available, doesn't have to be a pup. I got a call yesterday about one I have but someone at my work wants her.
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Did you see the "Pup's need homes" thread? Someone found six lab puppies and they are looking for homes. We have a lab X who is about a year old -- sweet but very, very active.:howdy:
 
SouthernMdRocks

SouthernMdRocks

R.I.P. Bobo, We miss you!
Unbelievable said:
Did you see the "Pup's need homes" thread? Someone found six lab puppies and they are looking for homes. We have a lab X who is about a year old -- sweet but very, very active.:howdy:
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Yep. I saw the thread but it turned out to be an old ad that someone revived for who knows what reason.
 
CRoyal

CRoyal

Infinite Impetus
Unbelievable said:
Let's say you foster dogs for an organization and one day, with the organization's approval you take in kittens. Let's further say that for almost a year you pay for all the food and provide shelter for the foster dogs and cats and NEVER ask for any assistance from the organization. You take them for all their appointments, have people come to your home to see the animals, take the larger dogs to the dog park, etc. Let's also say that you have placed approximately 20 dogs for the organization in less than a year.
However:
When a dog appears to do something the president of the organization doesn't like. . . it becomes "your" dog!?! These activities can range from nipping a vet tech to "fence fighting"(?) or, even better, just being too large to handle.
When a kitten requires medical assistance to save it's life. . . it becomes "your" kitten. As "your" kitten you're responsible for the cost of this life saving procedure. The organization flat out refuses to pay.
Just remember that these dogs and kittens are still listed at the shelter under the name of the organization as the rescue, you've never signed an adoption form and the animals are available for adoption.
Well, I'm through venting and I'm on my way to pick up the kitten and pay the vet bill. . . All I can say to the organization is Shame on You!:howdy:
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The thing about animal people, is that they're usually good hearted and sometimes soft people. There will ALWAYS be more pets than foster homes, no matter how well run the orgaization is and you have to learn to say no. Especially when you are getting taken advantage of. They will always go to you to take in these pets since you are good at it and clearly provide for them. I know many people who have been involved in such organizations and left because they got taken advantage of. None of the orgs were 'bad', just poorly run. The people who are involved in them have 'real' jobs and it is usually a side thing..
It is awesome that you have an open heart to these pets, but you have to start saying no.
Gluck!
 
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forever jewel said:
What breeds are the five dogs? :popcorn:
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We have a lab X (6 years old Male)(sweetest dog in the world but is a tad bit needy and, while he resides with the Akita X, he prefers to be an only dog), an Akita X (5 years old Female)(very, very sweet dog but needs someone who understands larger dogs, especially Akitas), Dogo (8 mo. old Male)(quite a handful but would be a great one person dog), Blue Pitt (8 mos. old Female)(sweet as she can be, loves people but not quite as fond of other animals) and another lab X (8 mo. old Male)(he's a good boy, just every inch a large pup at the moment) . We also have an 8 mo. old Cane Corso (Female)(her brothers have been adopted and she is finally coming out of her shell. she is an absolutely beautiful dog but probably would be best with a couple or a single individual because she's going to need a lot of attention.) That's the pack. All are spayed and/or neutered except for the Blue Pitt and the Cane Corso.
 
forever jewel

forever jewel

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Unbelievable said:
We have a lab X (6 years old Male)(sweetest dog in the world but is a tad bit needy and, while he resides with the Akita X, he prefers to be an only dog), an Akita X (5 years old Female)(very, very sweet dog but needs someone who understands larger dogs, especially Akitas), Dogo (8 mo. old Male)(quite a handful but would be a great one person dog), Blue Pitt (8 mos. old Female)(sweet as she can be, loves people but not quite as fond of other animals) and another lab X (8 mo. old Male)(he's a good boy, just every inch a large pup at the moment) . We also have an 8 mo. old Cane Corso (Female)(her brothers have been adopted and she is finally coming out of her shell. she is an absolutely beautiful dog but probably would be best with a couple or a single individual because she's going to need a lot of attention.) That's the pack. All are spayed and/or neutered except for the Blue Pitt and the Cane Corso.
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I've never heard of the Cane Corso. What do they look like?
 
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