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Alright, I don't really know how this got started, nor why I stumbled upon it, but I cannot walk away having read what I have. I made the account I am using for the sole purpose of this post and I will likely not return.
First things first: The Validity of the Bible.
The Bible (or at least the original Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek texts) was written over more than 1500 years, on three continents, in different environments, by approximately 40 human authors, and during every mood we know of. The Bible contains subject matter that is and was very controversial, yet it is written with harmony and continuity from cover to cover. Those who say "the Bible contradicts itself" do not know what they are talking about, and say so because they were told so themselves, or stumbled across two verses that seemed to say different things about the same subject. The latter is usually the case when people back up their claims with scripture, but each time a verse is either misunderstood or taken out of context. On all matters the Bible covers, it agrees in every book. Old Testament law does not rule over the New Testament Christian, but the Old Testament is still included in the Bible because it provides many examples that show the character of God and the sinful nature of Man. The Bible is accurate in all areas it discusses:
-There is no proven fact of science that contradicts a verse of scripture.
-In cases where a theory contradicts scripture, that theory is often proven false, and scripture true.
-Many years ago doctors used to "bleed" sick patients, in an attempt to cause them to recover, but more often than not, caused the patient's condition to worsen, often resulting in the patient's death. Leviticus 17:11 says that "the life of the flesh is in the blood." Excessive loss of blood causes the loss of life.
-Ancient theories of the world's origin had it resting on the shoulders of Atlas, or on the back of a giant turtle, or whatever. Job 26:7 says that the earth does not hang (or sit) on anything.
-Scientists used to think that the world was flat. Isaiah 40:22 describes the world this way, "the circle of the earth"
-There is no proven archaeological find that contradicts a verse of scripture.
-At least 5,000 places mentioned in the Bible havce been definitely located by archaeologists.
-Archaeological evidence has proven the Bible's accountsof various kings or rulers.
-No legitimate archaeological discovery has ever contradicted the Bible.
-Proper evaluation of Biblical statements have led to amazing archaeological discoveries.
-The Bible contains many prophetic predictions, and though not all have yet come true, many have already been fulfilled.
-Biblical prophecies are not vague, such as the 'prophecies' of Nostradamus or so-called 'psychics.' Biblical prophecies are specific, such as the miraculous birth of a child to a couple in their 90s (Genesis 15:1-6; 17:1-5; 18:1-19) or that one of Jesus' disciples (Peter) would deny him three times the night before he was crucified (Matthew 26:31-34).
-The entire history of the Jewish people is evidence of the truth of the Bible. The Jews' continued existance as a seperate people proves that the prophecies given to and about them were true. Throughout their history they have come under oppression and hatred--we even have a word for it: anti-semitism. The Jews were slaves in Egypt, Babylon and Assyria, persecuted by numerous groups. Hitler was the leader of one such group of anti-semitists.
-Every detail of Jesus' life was recorded in the Old Testament (at LEAST 400 years before his birth). Many details about Jesus' life are recorded in external historical documents.
-The Bible has survived intact for its entire existance, nearly 3500 years (from first jot to last tittle), still as accurate as it was when it was originally written.
-After the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls (copies of the original manuscripts of what we now call the Bible) more than 1000 years after they were hidden, they were compared to copies of that day, and over 1000 years, not one iota of noticeable difference was found.
-Jewish laws governing the transcription of the Bible allow for 3 and only 3 errors in the ENTIRE thing. Should the transcriber make more than 3 errors, he must destroy it.
-The Bible has been persecuted for most of its existance as a whole document, yet continues to be the most read book on the earth, existing in more than 1100 languages, many of which were put to written form so that the Bible could be translated into those languages.
I'm sure there is more I could say about this, but I need to go soon, so I will say one or two things about evolution before going.
Show me something evolving. You can't. Don't try to cite the caterpillar/butterfly thing or anything else like that. That is metamorphosis, not evolution, and is a naturally occuring process. Do not try to cite "Darwin's Finches," because that is an example of variation, not evolution. Show me one thing giving birth to something else. Show me a cow giving birth to a llama. Show me a chicken egg hatching into a crocodile. You can't, because it does not happen. It can not happen. It never happened, nor will it ever happen. Genesis 1:24 says that God created everything "after his kind," and everything continues to reproduce "after his kind." There is no "after another's kind" anywhere.
I think that's about it for now. I could argue about several other topics, but I don't have the time now.
Just a few closing thoughts:
The Bible is not simply true because it says it is. The Bible, and that which is contained in it, is suppored by over 1,000 external documents. Is that a lot? Nobody would argue the authenticity of Aristotle's writings, and those are suppored by a whopping 7(or so) external documents.
The Bible is coherent because its Author is coherent. There are many writers of the Bible, but one Author, who guided each writer's hand.
Thank you for reading all the way through this, and if after what I have said, you still do not think the Bible is accurate, then just wait until the end of your life. You'll see then.
"I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else."
-- C.S. Lewis
First things first: The Validity of the Bible.
The Bible (or at least the original Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek texts) was written over more than 1500 years, on three continents, in different environments, by approximately 40 human authors, and during every mood we know of. The Bible contains subject matter that is and was very controversial, yet it is written with harmony and continuity from cover to cover. Those who say "the Bible contradicts itself" do not know what they are talking about, and say so because they were told so themselves, or stumbled across two verses that seemed to say different things about the same subject. The latter is usually the case when people back up their claims with scripture, but each time a verse is either misunderstood or taken out of context. On all matters the Bible covers, it agrees in every book. Old Testament law does not rule over the New Testament Christian, but the Old Testament is still included in the Bible because it provides many examples that show the character of God and the sinful nature of Man. The Bible is accurate in all areas it discusses:
-There is no proven fact of science that contradicts a verse of scripture.
-In cases where a theory contradicts scripture, that theory is often proven false, and scripture true.
-Many years ago doctors used to "bleed" sick patients, in an attempt to cause them to recover, but more often than not, caused the patient's condition to worsen, often resulting in the patient's death. Leviticus 17:11 says that "the life of the flesh is in the blood." Excessive loss of blood causes the loss of life.
-Ancient theories of the world's origin had it resting on the shoulders of Atlas, or on the back of a giant turtle, or whatever. Job 26:7 says that the earth does not hang (or sit) on anything.
-Scientists used to think that the world was flat. Isaiah 40:22 describes the world this way, "the circle of the earth"
-There is no proven archaeological find that contradicts a verse of scripture.
-At least 5,000 places mentioned in the Bible havce been definitely located by archaeologists.
-Archaeological evidence has proven the Bible's accountsof various kings or rulers.
-No legitimate archaeological discovery has ever contradicted the Bible.
-Proper evaluation of Biblical statements have led to amazing archaeological discoveries.
-The Bible contains many prophetic predictions, and though not all have yet come true, many have already been fulfilled.
-Biblical prophecies are not vague, such as the 'prophecies' of Nostradamus or so-called 'psychics.' Biblical prophecies are specific, such as the miraculous birth of a child to a couple in their 90s (Genesis 15:1-6; 17:1-5; 18:1-19) or that one of Jesus' disciples (Peter) would deny him three times the night before he was crucified (Matthew 26:31-34).
-The entire history of the Jewish people is evidence of the truth of the Bible. The Jews' continued existance as a seperate people proves that the prophecies given to and about them were true. Throughout their history they have come under oppression and hatred--we even have a word for it: anti-semitism. The Jews were slaves in Egypt, Babylon and Assyria, persecuted by numerous groups. Hitler was the leader of one such group of anti-semitists.
-Every detail of Jesus' life was recorded in the Old Testament (at LEAST 400 years before his birth). Many details about Jesus' life are recorded in external historical documents.
-The Bible has survived intact for its entire existance, nearly 3500 years (from first jot to last tittle), still as accurate as it was when it was originally written.
-After the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls (copies of the original manuscripts of what we now call the Bible) more than 1000 years after they were hidden, they were compared to copies of that day, and over 1000 years, not one iota of noticeable difference was found.
-Jewish laws governing the transcription of the Bible allow for 3 and only 3 errors in the ENTIRE thing. Should the transcriber make more than 3 errors, he must destroy it.
-The Bible has been persecuted for most of its existance as a whole document, yet continues to be the most read book on the earth, existing in more than 1100 languages, many of which were put to written form so that the Bible could be translated into those languages.
I'm sure there is more I could say about this, but I need to go soon, so I will say one or two things about evolution before going.
Show me something evolving. You can't. Don't try to cite the caterpillar/butterfly thing or anything else like that. That is metamorphosis, not evolution, and is a naturally occuring process. Do not try to cite "Darwin's Finches," because that is an example of variation, not evolution. Show me one thing giving birth to something else. Show me a cow giving birth to a llama. Show me a chicken egg hatching into a crocodile. You can't, because it does not happen. It can not happen. It never happened, nor will it ever happen. Genesis 1:24 says that God created everything "after his kind," and everything continues to reproduce "after his kind." There is no "after another's kind" anywhere.
I think that's about it for now. I could argue about several other topics, but I don't have the time now.
Just a few closing thoughts:
The Bible is not simply true because it says it is. The Bible, and that which is contained in it, is suppored by over 1,000 external documents. Is that a lot? Nobody would argue the authenticity of Aristotle's writings, and those are suppored by a whopping 7(or so) external documents.
The Bible is coherent because its Author is coherent. There are many writers of the Bible, but one Author, who guided each writer's hand.
Thank you for reading all the way through this, and if after what I have said, you still do not think the Bible is accurate, then just wait until the end of your life. You'll see then.
"I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else."
-- C.S. Lewis
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