MMDad
Lem Putt
She'd be on the 5th floor the first day.
I have a confession to make...
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She'd be on the 5th floor the first day.
mAlice
professional daydreamer
Meh. It's gonna' happen. What's a 'tutu' thread?
SoMDGirl42
Well-Known Member
it's all about me me me me me me mamatutu
mAlice
professional daydreamer
Right. Got it.
ProximaCentauri
Member
So getting back to your OP, how do you know your revelation is real? How does one know with certitude that a life experience or circumstance has been orchestrated by the divine?
Larry Gude
Strung Out
She can speak for herself but, I think that is the faith part.
ProximaCentauri
Member
Possibly. There are some who claim with certainty that what they experienced can only be explained as divine intervention. If the event is reality in their view, faith that the event was real becomes unnecessary, no?
Larry Gude
Strung Out
And they're the ones who I can't relate to. Faith is faith. If it was knowable, if it was math, engineering and/or science, it would no longer be faith. They can 'know' in their heart all they like and that's what I am enjoying about mAlices revelations; she's willing to state that she KNEW before the other way. Very honest and sincere.
mAlice
professional daydreamer
Ya' had to be there. As I've stated before, I don't want to go into any detail. It's not for me to convince you. Whether you believe or not, is entirely up to you.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
ProximaCentauri
Member
I'm good with that and I was not asking with the expectation that the onus was on you to convince me. I asked because I enjoy hearing about revelations, near death experiences, etc.
I suspect most that feel they have had revelations, were pre-disposed to 'revelation' because they had been drawn to the faith prior to the revelation, and psychologically the revelation is a confirmation and firming up of prior inclination to faith/belief. As for myself, that was the case, as I felt curious circumstances and happenings in my life were revelations in a sense. But I had been leaning toward renewing my faith anyway so the perceived "revelations" helped with that becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy, if you will.
As I'm sure you've gathered, I am no longer a believer. But if one feels that belief is necessary in their journey to become a better person, I have no qualms. That said, I will say that I continue to have concerns that the tendency to allow dogma to subvert compassion, could very well creep in, which is never a good thing.
This_person
Well-Known Member
I disagree. I can believe they're wrong without a lack of respect for their right to believe it. To play off of Larry's response, I can accept people say terrible things but I would fight to the death their right to say them.
acommondisaster
Active Member
I was going through a rough patch a few years back and I really felt like my back was up against the wall. We had a family member deep into addiction and all of our effort and assets seemed to go towards helping them out of their trouble. I really didn't feel like I owned my own life anymore. I passed by my brand of church nearly every day, but never went in. Woke up one Sunday and after 30+ years I stepped inside for a Sunday service. I found a small congregation who didn't know any of my burdens, or if I even had any, and was welcomed with open arms. For an hour, all of my troubles were off my shoulders and it became a great place of solace away from everything. Deciding exactly what I believed in took a little longer, sounds like you went through a process, too. I really feel happier and less burdened now. I had no idea what I was missing in my life until that Sunday.
*sigh*
Zguy28
New Member
God bless you as well. May the grace of God be upon you. Another answered prayer.
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mamatutu
mama to two
God bless you as well. May the grace of God be upon you. Another answered prayer.
Can you please say a prayer, also, for the members here that are not tolerant of others. Thank you.
mAlice
professional daydreamer
This. And could you start with the Muslims?
Zguy28
New Member
Tolerance is such a supercharged word. Sometimes its good to be intolerant of certain things and views, especially because the go against the very fabric of your own worldview. I pray for truth, love, and righteous living (the three marks of a Christian according to the apostle John) among the brethren, and salvation for the lost, whether that's atheists, unconverted church-goers, or Muslims. All are in need of Jesus Christ.
mamatutu
mama to two
Amen. And, thank you for your words. I was awake all night praying and sad for a family I used to know in my previous life. The life I knew with the father of my children, my children, and myself when we lived in Potomac. I am so sad for them. You are comforting. And, yes, Jesus is in my life. He reminded me tonight/today of how blessed I am.