If I see one more negative ad...

Kerad

New Member
vraiblonde said:
I'm sorry - I don't think I mentioned *which* way I think they're biased.

Would you care to tell me?

You're right (no pun intended), Vrai...you did not actually come out and say which way you think they're biased. Interesting. So...do you think their bias switches according to the issue?

Could you...actually be saying......they are biased....against the Democrats (*gasp!*) at certain times??
 

chernmax

NOT Politically Correct!!
All the ads stink, that's why for the last serveral weeks I've been on the cable only channels and stayed off the local ones... :coffee:
 
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vraiblonde

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Kerad said:
Could you...actually be saying......they are biased....against the Democrats (*gasp!*) at certain times??
We report, you decide. :coffee:

I just thought it was interesting that I made an observational statement, not mentioning any political party, and several people automatically assumed I meant that they were liberal-biased.

Project much?
 

Kerad

New Member
vraiblonde said:
We report, you decide. :coffee:

I just thought it was interesting that I made an observational statement, not mentioning any political party, and several people automatically assumed I meant that they were liberal-biased.

Project much?

Well Vrai...your reputaion precedes you. As for you claiming a bias against the Democrats...I'd be less surprised if Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld all resigned tomorrow.
 

AndyMarquisLIVE

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Kerad said:
Well Vrai...your reputaion precedes you. As for you claiming a bias against the Democrats...I'd be less surprised if Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld all resigned tomorrow.

She cited MSNBC as liberal because of Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews, even though Chris Matthews is a registered Republican and voted for Bush in 2000. She never addressed that when I mentioned it, instead bashed MSNBC's ratings which is also a sour spot. MSNBC's ratings are up and FOX's are down.

CNN is also called liberal, even though this is the network that brought quite a bit of the FOX News talent there is now.
 

AndyMarquisLIVE

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Oh yeah, I forgot. ABC News, which made a documentary slamming the Clinton's with parts unsupported by any fact, is also "liberal."
 

Pete

Repete
AndyMarquisLIVE said:
Oh yeah, I forgot. ABC News, which made a documentary slamming the Clinton's with parts unsupported by any fact, is also "liberal."
Are you sure it was ABC news? Wasn't it produced by some other company that billed it as a drama and not a documentary? Didn't the Dems howl and try to pressure them to edit what they claimed were gross "inaccuracies"? didn't they edit it?
 

Pete

Repete
AndyMarquisLIVE said:
She cited MSNBC as liberal because of Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews, even though Chris Matthews is a registered Republican and voted for Bush in 2000. She never addressed that when I mentioned it, instead bashed MSNBC's ratings which is also a sour spot. MSNBC's ratings are up and FOX's are down.

CNN is also called liberal, even though this is the network that brought quite a bit of the FOX News talent there is now.
:lmao:
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
I like the Ehrlich ad that lists all of his accomplishments as Governor to include a budget surplus.. how many states can say that??

The only bad thing O'Malley has on him is the 40% hike in tuition.. but it's still more affordable then most states.. and O'Malley's record as Mayor.. I HOPE he doesn't win..
 

vraiblonde

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itsbob said:
The only bad thing O'Malley has on him is the 40% hike in tuition.. but it's still more affordable then most states..
I don't think the Governor has anything to do with tuition rates, anyway. That's the territory of the Board of Regents, isn't it? And how I know that (or thought I knew it) is because Roy Dyson cited it in response to an accusation that he voted in favor of illegal immigrants receiving in-state tuition.
 

virgovictoria

Tight Pants and Lipstick
PREMO Member
I just want to know your TV specs - so that I can trade with you if yours is better than mine before you destroy it. :bubble:
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
vraiblonde said:
I don't think the Governor has anything to do with tuition rates, anyway. That's the territory of the Board of Regents, isn't it? And how I know that (or thought I knew it) is because Roy Dyson cited it in response to an accusation that he voted in favor of illegal immigrants receiving in-state tuition.
That would make sense to me..

Either way, MD State schools are still the cheapest of any of the other states I've lived in..

Ehrlich is doing a decent job.. I wish he would do something about the gun laws, but other then that I have not one complaint about what he is doing..

Now lets get rid of the waste of oxygen Mikulski.. We need to find someone half-assed intelligent to run against her.
 

BuddyLee

Football addict
vraiblonde said:
I don't think the Governor has anything to do with tuition rates, anyway. That's the territory of the Board of Regents, isn't it? And how I know that (or thought I knew it) is because Roy Dyson cited it in response to an accusation that he voted in favor of illegal immigrants receiving in-state tuition.
That was my one major problem with Ehrlich. I'm almost paying double what I did from last year. However...

Ehrlich inherited a gaping hole in the state budget upon taking office in 2003, and he cut state spending on Maryland's public colleges and universities by about $120 million during the early part of his term.

University leaders responded by raising tuition at a much faster clip than in previous years. By fall 2005, tuition for in-state residents at the flagship campus in College Park, for example, had risen to $6,566 -- an increase of more than 43 percent from fall 2002, according to legislative analysts.

After two rounds of deep cuts, state spending on colleges and universities increased gradually during the third year of Ehrlich's term, with overall spending catching up in 2006 to what it had been in 2003.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/17/AR2006101701495.html
 

BuddyLee

Football addict
itsbob said:
Either way, MD State schools are still the cheapest of any of the other states I've lived in..

From the same article...

Maryland's tuition and fees were the sixth-highest in the nation for public four-year institutions, according to a 2005 report by the College Board. Virginia ranked 14th.
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
$6566 a year is NOT bad at all...

$26,000 for a four year degree is one hell of a bargain.. and a price anyone can afford if they want to go to school.
 
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AndyMarquisLIVE

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Nucklesack said:
And the start of Path to 9/11 said it was based on the 9/11 hearings (and findings)

there is a difference

I'm gonna guess you feel Michael Moores Fahrenheit 9/11 and Bowling for Columbine are documentaries though?

I think Michael Moore's fiction works are full of ####.
 

AndyMarquisLIVE

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itsbob said:
$6566 a year is NOT bad at all...

$26,000 for a four year degree is one hell of a bargain.. and a price anyone can afford if they want to go to school.

Depends on where you go. If you're going to CSM, you're spending more time than you need to to get a poorer education quality than you'd get at CSM.

I think when I applied for college in Virginia, it was $65,000/yr.

When I applied to go to UMD, it was $26,000/yr.

Not to mention the decrease in educational quality in our schools in Maryland. If you go across the border into Virginia, there are the top ranked schools in the nation. But then you come back to Maryland. It's not just Martin O'Malley's Baltimore schools that are getting worse, that's statewide. It's not just Baltimore that's getting an increased crime rate, that's a statewide thing.
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
Numbers
1:Enrollment
2:In-State Yearly Cost (including room and board)
3:Amount after Aid
4:Avg Student debt at graduation


School Enrollment In-state costs Costs after aid Avg. debt
1
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
16,764
$13,584
$6,414
$13,801

2
University of Florida
34,668
$10,716
$6,414
$14,835

3
University of Virginia
14,213
$15,944
$5,028
$15,176

4
The College of William and Mary
5,594
$16,406
$5,961
$14,524

5
State University of New York at Binghamton
11,174
$14,788
$10,000
$14,734

6
New College of Florida
761
$11,097
$3,548
$12,252

7
State University of New York College at Geneseo
5,306
$14,848
$12,131
$16,000

8
University of California, San Diego
20,339
$17,846
$8,306
$14,689

9
UCLA
24,811
$20,388
$9,500
$14,431

10
University of Washington
27,488
$14,055
$7,055
$15,210

11
University of Georgia
25,204
$12,558
$6,827
$13,422

12
Georgia Institute of Technology
11,841
$13,020
$8,630
$17,001

13
University of Michigan
25,467
$18,533
$11,498
$22,312

14
The College of New Jersey
5,895
$20,619
$11,616
$17,673

15
University of Maryland, College Park
25,373
$17,530
$12,808
$14,076

16
University of Mary Washington
4,085
$13,228
$10,028
$12,665

17
University of Wisconsin–Madison
30,106
$14,536
$10,682
$18,630

18
North Carolina State University
22,767
$12,724
$6,807
$14,505

19
The University of Texas at Austin
36,878
$16,606
$10,356
$16,000

20
University of California, Santa Barbara
18,077
$19,693
$10,483
$15,297

21
University of California, Berkeley
23,482
$20,503
$9,566
$13,171

22
Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University
21,627
$12,806
$8,550
$18,385

23
Truman State University
5,571
$12,920
$9,960
$16,656

24
Texas A&M University
36,368
$15,028
$8,233
$16,027

25
Clemson University
14,096
$16,190
$12,853
$15,730

26
University of Delaware
16,939
$15,991
$9,691
$15,200

27
James Madison University
15,618
$13,866
$8,534
$12,591

28
New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology
1,388
$9,730
$5,636
$8,788

29
University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign
30,909
$18,682
$12,448
$15,526

30
Florida State University
30,785
$10,927
$7,924
$16,597

31
University of Wisconsin–La Crosse
8,133
$10,575
$8,525
$13,948

32
The University of North Carolina at Asheville
3,476
$10,530
$7,100
$15,309

33
Miami University
14,643
$32,277
$28,272
$21,522

34
Appalachian State University
12,986
$9,946
$5,660
$15,433

35
California Polytechnic State Univ., San Luis Obispo
17,488
$14,222
$12,511
$13,788

36
University of Connecticut
16,112
$17,354
$11,396
$19,410

37
Stony Brook University, State University of New York
14,287
$14,955
$9,632
$14,437

38
Penn State University
34,637
$20,244
$15,722
$22,400

39
St. Mary's College of Maryland
1,964
$20,938
$16,938
$17,125

40
College of Charleston
9,878
$14,762
$11,765
$16,143

41
University of California, Davis
22,735
$20,502
$11,430
$12,701

42
Mississippi University for Women
2,166
$9,110
$6,635
$12,580

43
Rutgers, The State Univ. of N.J., New Brunswick
26,713
$19,996
$11,962
$15,362

44
The University of North Carolina Wilmington
10,581
$11,937
$8,383
$15,620

45
Colorado School of Mines
3,098
$17,360
$10,260
$17,700

46
The University of Tennessee
20,232
$12,824
$7,709
$21,713

47
Millersville University of Pennsylvania
6,991
$13,863
$9,953
$16,103

48
University of South Carolina
18,362
$14,766
$11,340
$18,699

49
University of Central Florida
37,796
$12,708
$8,999
$12,780

50
Murray State University
8,577
$11,096
$8,914
$17,617
 
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itsbob

I bowl overhand
Top 50 schools in the US based on Academics and affordability.. U of MD is #14.. Not too bad..
 
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