iPhone versus Android

Beta84

They're out to get us
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how is it closed ?

have you Rooted your Droid yet ?

with 100,000 + Apps I would not call it closed ....... hardly
It's closed because 1) you only have one market to choose from, and 2) that market restricts what's in it and has to approve everything, which works great when they're the only market but is slowing down with the Android market on a roll.

So yeah, the selection is solid (for the foreseeable future, at least), but it's still closed.
 
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blazinlow89

Big Poppa
still, its a great phone..but the battery life is awful. phone is dead by 3 or 4 with light use, texts, a little surfing, maybe one phone call..wifi and bluetooth off. It seems, through the battery useage manager, that my "display" is eating the battery..I turned the brightness all the way down and the off timer to 30 seconds..what else can I do? its worse than my droid and the battery is sup to be bigger :(

Go to wireless & networks -> mobile network settings -> and change it to CDMA only, turns off the gsm antenna.

As for other things, you can do some searches for root access, after root you can remove bloatware, and do other things. I have loaded some different ROMS, and my battery life it awesome. Stand by i might lose 2% over the course of a day with light usage like maybe a few 5-10 min phone calls, sending text messages, and checking email i will lose maybe 10-15% over the course of 10 hours. With moderate use, research calls, email, web, i can go 12-15 hours on a full charge before needing to recharge. Heavy use is still pretty bad, but i can go 6-8 hours while playing 3D games, texting surfing like crazy, and other games.

Depending on the phone and what has been put into the OS, they can block you from using them. Trying to use them results in being taken to the Verizon web page where it tells you to sign up for tethering service. However, there are ways around with root (which you needed anyway to make them work in the first place). As for whether they can tell...maybe. I've heard reports of people getting slapped with charges, but they are the people who abuse the capability.

I know gingerbread fixed some of the patches and tether workarounds. There is a workaround on the Motorola phones using Radiocomm software, to change the codes the antenna uses when doing different things, so that the verizon end always thinks you are using phone data.
 
Thing to remember with cell phones, regardless of make, is that the further away you get from a tower, ie the less bars you have, the more transmit power is used to make up the difference, and it uses more battery in the process.

My cell will last for days in standby mode at the house because I have a tower nearby. In my metal office where I can barely get a signal, the battery dies in less than a working day.
 

Toxick

Splat
Thing to remember with cell phones, regardless of make, is that the further away you get from a tower, ie the less bars you have, the more transmit power is used to make up the difference, and it uses more battery in the process.



Angry Birds and YouTube also drain the battery at a pretty good clip too.
 
If you have access to Consumer Reports, this months copy has a very good breakdown, pros/cons, carriers, features, etc... of all the smartphones and pads.
 
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EmptyTimCup

Guest
Depending on the phone and what has been put into the OS, they can block you from using them. Trying to use them results in being taken to the Verizon web page where it tells you to sign up for tethering service. However, there are ways around with root (which you needed anyway to make them work in the first place). As for whether they can tell...maybe. I've heard reports of people getting slapped with charges, but they are the people who abuse the capability.

iPhone is the same way, I will jailbreaking mine as soon as it is available
 
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EmptyTimCup

Guest
It's closed because 1) you only have one market to choose from, and 2) that market restricts what's in it and has to approve everything, which works great when they're the only market but is slowing down with the Android market on a roll.

So yeah, the selection is solid (for the foreseeable future, at least), but it's still closed.



Jail Break ...... wide open
 

somdfunguy

not impressed
Cybercriminals Steal More than $1 Million in 2011

Cybercriminals Steal More than $1 Million (€700,000) from Android Users in 2011 - Softpedia

A recent study made by Lookout Mobile Security reveals that mobile malware has become a reality, cybercriminals managing to illegally earn more than $1 million (700,000 EUR) only from Android users, experts estimating that next year things will get even worse.

The figures show that the likelihood for an Android user to encounter a malicious element has risen from 1% to 4% from the beginning of 2011. Reportedly, Android customers worldwide have a 36% chance of clicking on a link that will eventually point to a malware-filled website.

“2011 was a watershed year in terms of the types threats we saw emerging. Threats had greater sophistication and were deployed using more innovative and efficient distribution methods,” said Kevin Mahaffey, co-founder and chief technology officer at Lookout.

“In 2012, we expect to see the mobile malware business turn profitable. What took 15 years on the PC platform has only taken the mobile ecosystem two years.”

When it comes to monetization trends, experts believe that malevolent software that sends SMS messages to premium rate numbers will represent the favorite method utilized by crooks to fill their pockets.

On the bright side of things, even though many believed botnet networks will be used at a larger scale, so far they haven’t really made their presence felt. In 2012, however, malware writers are expected to seamlessly integrate thousands of mobile devices into botnet-like networks that will distribute spam and steal sensitive information.

The automated repackaging of malicious applications may be a problem next year since researchers already stumbled upon a few situations where the phenomenon proved its efficiency.

Malvertising and browser attacks are also things we should fear in 2012 since the methods were already successfully utilized on several occasions.

Finally, not only Android devices will be targeted by the malicious operations described above. iOS-running machines will also be exploited since vulnerabilities are discovered at a much greater pace than they can be resolved.
 

somdfunguy

not impressed
https://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/gaining-remote-shell-android-122011 Gaining a Remote Shell on Android

In this video, researcher Thomas Cannon of ViaForensics demonstrates a method for setting up a remote shell on an Android device without using any exploits or vulnerabilities. The method works on various versions of Android, up to and including Gingerbread.


https://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/...-remote-access-no-permissions-required-122011 Android Application Allows Remote Access - No Permissions Required

Mobile security researchers at the firm Viaforensics say they have created a malicious mobile application that requires the phone user to grant no permissions during installation, but could give remote attackers the ability to install and execute malicious code on mobile devices running the Android operating system.

The "No-permission Android App Remote Shell," as they are calling it, doesn't take advantage of a security hole in Google's Android. Rather, it exploits legitimate functionality that has been known about for a number of years, Viaforensics claimed in a blog post.

The application provides access to a wide range of device features, allowing ViaForensics researchers to extract data about the device, control the application, read data from the SD Card and potentially download other applications or exploits. Upon installation, once the device is locked, it connects to ViaForensics’s control server.
 

blazinlow89

Big Poppa
iPhone has a jailbreak option now? I wonder how well that goes over with Apple when they try to update your phone.

Simple, Do not upgrade until the next jailbreak is good.

In order for me to update my Droid 3, I have to go through a process. I would first need to reflash the factory 2.3.3 SBF file through Fastboot. Then *223 the phone to add service back. Then let it update through the various OTA updates that have been done (or find the Newest SBF update online). Then I can reroot, remove bloat, restore all apps and user data, then I can do a backup.

Im sticking with Liberty ROM for right now, extremely happy with how the phone functions, battery life, and overall performance.
 

ylexot

Super Genius
Simple, Do not upgrade until the next jailbreak is good.

In order for me to update my Droid 3, I have to go through a process. I would first need to reflash the factory 2.3.3 SBF file through Fastboot. Then *223 the phone to add service back. Then let it update through the various OTA updates that have been done (or find the Newest SBF update online). Then I can reroot, remove bloat, restore all apps and user data, then I can do a backup.

Im sticking with Liberty ROM for right now, extremely happy with how the phone functions, battery life, and overall performance.

Keep a nandroid backup of stock. Restore the backup, take the OTA, reroot, done.

BTW, I'm also running Liberty on the DX. :yay: I might try out the CM9 ICS ROM after the holidays.
 

blazinlow89

Big Poppa
Keep a nandroid backup of stock. Restore the backup, take the OTA, reroot, done.

BTW, I'm also running Liberty on the DX. :yay: I might try out the CM9 ICS ROM after the holidays.

Bad thing for me is that I neglected to make a backup on the stock rom (I like living on the edge). I do have plenty of other backups though, Liberty, Maverick, and Steel Droid. Next time I flash the stock rom I will make a nandroid though. I can go back to stock and have the phone back to my current setup (minus the Liberty) in under an hour with both OTA updates, Root and app restore.

I wish CM would give the Droid 3 some love, last I seen it was still under Beta testing.

I do love the amount of abuse these androids do take, between the new OTA in November, and trying different roms. I think I had about 10 softbricks, 20-30 data wipes, and even more SBF, update, and rom flashes. Phone takes it like a champ.
 

somdfunguy

not impressed
OEMs getting n the way.

Galaxy Tab and Galaxy S will not taste Android 4.0 ICS: Samsung

Samsung, the South Korean mobile manufacture, has unveiled that according to the decision of the firm, the Galaxy Tab and the Galaxy S will not get an update of latest version of Android mobile OS code named Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0.

This of track is a spot troubling mulling over the massive attractiveness of the Galaxy S: the company has sold more than 20 million devices since it initially introduced the handset in 2010.
 
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