Is American society increasingly intolerant of tots?

Toxick

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elaine said:
You don't have to smack the brat. Simply remove it from the environment.
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If you do that, they won't learn nothin'.
And on top of it, you don't get your dinner.


That's a lose-lose.
 
mAlice

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Toxick said:
If you do that, they won't learn nothin'.
And on top of it, you don't get your dinner.


That's a lose-lose.
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Sure they will. You remove them from the situation, take them home and punish them. As for the lose-lose...as a parent you have to make sacrifices. Go home and have a PBJ with your brat.
 
BadGirl

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elaine said:
Sure they will. You remove them from the situation, take them home and punish them. As for the lose-lose...as a parent you have to make sacrifices. Go home and have a PBJ with your brat.
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Better yet, order up your food items and take them carry-out and eat them at home while your bad kid eats PBJ. :yay:
 
Somdmommy

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Toxick said:
I haven't read the entire thread yet, so I don't know if this has been brought up, but the parents of unruly brats can't really do much in public.

Perhaps everyone in these here forums may cheer and offer kudos to a parent that solidly cracks the ass of a child who's acting like a feral turd. But you have to remember that 9 times out of 10... no... more like 99 times out of 100, there will be some smarmy busybody who will have Child Services track you down and tell you that you're beating your child, and if they find out that it continues, they will take the child away.
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This is why "some" kids are this way. Alot of parents are scared to smack their kids butt in public for fear that some jack a$$ is going to butt in and call DSS. So you see them in the store going " Oh no honey, thats a nono, please dont do that"
Now if someone smacks the kid in the head, yeah maybe. But there is nothing wrong with a good butt smack.
 
vraiblonde

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itsbob said:
The only way to teach kids how to act in public, is to take them out in public.
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Unfortunately so many parents want to take them out in public but forget about that pesky teaching thing.

I hope, Bob, that if Nicholas were screaming his head off you or BadGirl would take him out and try to calm him down. It was so noisy in there that it wasn't even the screaming so much as that the kid was obviously traumatized and Mom just sat there like an idiot.
 
pixiegirl

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elaine said:
Sure they will. You remove them from the situation, take them home and punish them. As for the lose-lose...as a parent you have to make sacrifices. Go home and have a PBJ with your brat.
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I disagree. My kids would rather eat PBJ at home in a more casual environment than out where they're expected to behave. They misbehave in public they will be punished and the "punishment" is not going to come in the form of something they enjoy and I don't. Adults are too damn accomodating to their kids as it is; that's why we have so many brats running wild.
 
vraiblonde

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elaine said:
You don't have to smack the brat. Simply remove it from the environment.
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That's pretty simple :shrug:

I didn't smack my kids around (much :jet:) when they were growing up. Most of the time it was my fault anyway because I took them out at naptime then expected them to buck up and behave.

My auntie taught me "The Bornemeier Death Grip", which has been subduing unruly children for 4 generations. They throw a fit and start flailing, you physically immobilize them and cart them off the the bathroom or somewhere. This works with infants as well as toddlers and makes them feel bundled and secure, which calms them down.

Either that or they lose oxygen and pass out - I can't remember which...
 
mAlice

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pixiegirl said:
I disagree. My kids would rather eat PBJ at home in a more casual environment than out where they're expected to behave. They misbehave in public they will be punished and the "punishment" is not going to come in the form of something they enjoy and I don't. Adults are too damn accomodating to their kids as it is; that's why we have so many brats running wild.
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Then feed them a liverwurst sandwich. I really don't give a sh!t what they eat, so long as the environment I'm spending my money in isn't miserable.
 
pixiegirl

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elaine said:
Then feed them a liverwurst sandwich. I really don't give a sh!t what they eat, so long as the environment I'm spending my money in isn't miserable.
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No, it's called I drove my ass out there to enjoy a meal and a child is not going to make me go home. I'll take his little ass in the bathroom and light it up if need be. I don't have ill behaved children and I don't see the need in making myself suffer or sacrifice to make that happen.
 
mAlice

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pixiegirl said:
No, it's called I drove my ass out there to enjoy a meal and a child is not going to make me go home. I'll take his little ass in the bathroom and light it up if need be. I don't have ill behaved children and I don't see the need in making myself suffer or sacrifice to make that happen.
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Then I guess, like BG and Bob, this conversation isn't really directed at you. Don't get all high and mighty with me, missy. :smack:
 
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vraiblonde

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My kids didn't start getting stupid until they were older - 8 and 5, respectively. We'd go into a store and they'd want to bicker with each other and act ignorant - "MAAAAAAAMMMMMM!!!! Dougie hit me!!!" "MAAAAAAAMMMM!!! Kyle won't quit looking at me!!!"

:rolleyes:

That's when I'd get the closest one under the arm and apply pressure until compliance was achieved. You speak to them in a firm, friendly tone - "Now listen, that is not how we act in the grocery store" - while you have a bit of their skin between your thumb and forefinger.

Busybodies can't see what you're doing so they butt out - "See? Now that lady can get her children to straighten up without yelling or hitting. Why can't other parents do that?" :yay:
 
Lilypad

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I'm the youngest of 7; all the tricks were already played on me mum. She had a hand like a hawk-it would swoop outta no where and it would be all over but the crying. Easy peasy!
 
baileydog

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pixiegirl said:
I disagree. My kids would rather eat PBJ at home in a more casual environment than out where they're expected to behave. They misbehave in public they will be punished and the "punishment" is not going to come in the form of something they enjoy and I don't. Adults are too damn accomodating to their kids as it is; that's why we have so many brats running wild.
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I love the way you think about kids. I dont generally like being around any kid over 2 years old because they most are brats, but if I ever meet you, Im sure I would like your kids. Something tells me they will be polite and have some manners. Maybe notperfect, but Im sure good. :huggy:
 
BadGirl

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baileydog said:
I love the way you think about kids. I dont generally like being around any kid over 2 years old because they most are brats, but if I ever meet you, Im sure I would like your kids. Something tells me they will be polite and have some manners. Maybe notperfect, but Im sure good. :huggy:
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Pixiegirl has AWESOME kids. Her oldest bugaboo is my "spare" boyfriend. :biggrin:
 
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