Is Charles Co. Racist?
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Now you are stereotyping gender's. 
cdsulhoff
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Pandora said:Nope, Charles County is still setting up the black folk, planting guns on innocent choir boys.
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I just finished the entire thread and seriously I don't see any racism involved in an officer responding to being fired upon by returning fire. Also given that a history of the deceased having carried firearms illegally in the past makes it seem highly likely that he indeed was armed and used the arm upon his being detained as reported by the officers.
All I can say is good job Charles County Officers. Keep up the good job.
All I can say is good job Charles County Officers. Keep up the good job.
StarCat
New Member
I dont hate black people. I dont hate anyone. There are people I dislike and they arent all black. I dislike trashy white people and I dislike black people who make EVERYTHING about race. Most of the crap they biatch about really has nothing to do with race.Pandora said:Don't let her fool you, she hates black people.
Shannie0308
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Ken King said:
Lustrust
New Member
Racism
That's right! If it were a white man, nothing would be said. Were all the cops white?
I hate when something like this happens, the first thing that happens is "Cry Racism".
The dude shouldn't have put himself in that predictiment. Afterall, the guy's resume included previous incidents, so you figure it out.
I pitty the poor white man.
chrissyhh said:
That's right! If it were a white man, nothing would be said. Were all the cops white?
I hate when something like this happens, the first thing that happens is "Cry Racism".
The dude shouldn't have put himself in that predictiment. Afterall, the guy's resume included previous incidents, so you figure it out.
I pitty the poor white man.
EmnJoe
nunya bidnis
I was looking up lyle's rap sheet and had a thought. so I put in the last name: Clark, first name : E, county: Charles, and looked at the female names. And didn't she say she lived in Oxen Hill. All I can say is that was interesting.
SoMd cops are not trigger happy and don't just shoot for the fun of it. They had a reason and more then the majority of people agree with the cops decision and actions.
SoMd cops are not trigger happy and don't just shoot for the fun of it. They had a reason and more then the majority of people agree with the cops decision and actions.
I have been following this thread for a couple of days but have had to restrain from replying due to reasons which I can not elaborate on. For those of you who aren't as priviledged, to some information as I am, I will inform you of the truth.
Patrol Officer Thompson (who for the record is black and not African American, because to my knowledge he was not born in Africa) was conducting a mandatory patrol check of the area. A mandatory patrol check was set up in this area, a few years back, due to it being identified as a high crime area, and open air drug market. Officer Thompson observed a vehicle, which had backed over a curb, then over a sidewalk, just missing an electrical box, telephone box, and a tree. The vehicle was in a grassy common area between two apartment buildings, and was very close to striking, if not going through a lower level window, to someone's apartment.
Officer Thompson approached the vehicle and found the driver of the vehicle, who was later identifed at Jonothan Zacharias Lyles, passed out in the driver's seat of the vehicle, which was running. Officer Thompson notified his communcations of his findings and an ambulance was dispatched. The ambulance responded, but was told to stage in the area, as is practice for this particular housing complex. A few years back, someone in the complex called for an ambulance, for someone who had been feeling "sick" for a couple of days, and decided they needed a taxi ride to the hospital, during the middle of the night. The dedicated volunteer rescue squad people, who receive no pay, had to leave their beds, at home and respond to the station to get the ambulance out. The "sick" person's family decided it was taking too long for the ambulance to get there. Once the ambulance did arrive on the scene to help this "sick" person, the family decided to verbally abuse the ambulance crew and made threats to their safety. Then, in their great wisdom, they went outside and slashed all the tires to the ambulance. So now, another ambulance had to come from even further away, and delayed getting their loved "sick" one to the hospital, which was only a mile away. So now everytime an ambulance is called in this area, it has to stage before going to the call, and wait for the police to respond first and give the "ok" to come in.
Back to my original story. Two more patrol officers arrived on the scene to assist Officer Thompson. They were able to awake Mr. Lyles and detected that he had been consuming alcoholic beverages. Mr. Lyles was asked to exit his vehicle. Mr. Lyles was not immediately searched, because the officers had no probable cause to do that yet, as he was not under arrest yet. Mr. Lyles was given field sobriety test, as is always the case, when an officer believes someone is under the influence of an alcoholic beverage. Mr. Lyles was unable to complete these Standardized test and it was decided that he was going to be placed under arrest. As the officer attempted to handcuff Mr. Lyles, he then decided to pull away, and to resist arrest. Mr. Lyles reached into his pants and pulled out a loaded semi-automatic 9mm handgun and fired a round at one of the police officers. One of the officers re-acted to his training and deployed his firearm, and fired one round to the center mass area of Mr. Lyles, and struck him in the aforementioned area. Contrary to what a particular person on this forum believes, Any trained shooter whether it be a law enforcement officer, military personel, or trained citizen who is issued a handgun permit, is taught to aim and fire at the center mass of a target. The reason for using deadly force is to stop an immediate threat. Therefor the intention is not to mame or injury, which could possible allow the threat to continue.
Once Mr. Lyles had been struck, the police officers immediately began to perform medical treatment to him. The ambulance, which was staging nearby, was immediately called in, and was on the scene performing emergency medical treatment within three minutes. Mr. Lyles was transported to a nearby location, where a medivac helicopter was waiting. Family members of Mr. Lyles decided to respond to this location as well, and due to their disorderly actions, may have prolonged treatment being administered to him. Mr. Lyles was transported to PG Trauma Center, where he was later pronounced dead. Family members also responded to the hospital and became disorderly. Numerous police officers from the PG Police Department were dispatched to the hospital to disperse the disorderly crowd.
Mr. Lyles as you can see, had a lengthy criminal record, and was known to be actively participating in criminal activity. Mr. Lyles, and you can see, also had a history of carrying a concealed handgun, contrary to statements issued by some of his family members. I urge everyone to pay attention to a press conference, later today, and more information as to Mr. Lyles ongoing criminal activity will be divulged.
I also have to mention, that the apartment complex, that Mr. Lyles was on, is owned by a private property management company which has very strict rules. Mr. Lyles, not being a tenant, nor named in a lease to anyone on the property, was not even authorized to be on the property. There are numerous signs posted on the property which inform tenants and guest of the property rules. Therefor, Mr. Lyles was also trespassing, as he was not being accompanied by a tenant of the property at the time of this incident.
Later in the evening, some family members and numerous other people decided to hold a candle light vigal to honor our outstanding and law abiding citizen Mr. Lyles. During the vigal, a loud disturbance broke out among the particpants of this "peaceful gathering". Police officers, many of whom were asked to take time away from their families on their days off and to come to work, were on stand by in the area. Police assistance was requested by unknown persons. Numerous police officers responded to the scene and were greeted by a very hostile and unruly crowd. Officers were verbally abused and threats against their safety were made. The police officers used great restraint, and once they had somewhat quelled the disturbance, left the immediate area. The law abiding citizens, who were peacefully gathering to celebrate the life of a "thug" decided to then spray paint graffiti on the parking lot, the sidewalks, and on numerous buildings in the complex. The area was also littered with a very large amount of alcoholic beverage containers and debris.
To continue my story. A number of police officers had decided to move into the area, at the property managements request, and because their low salaries, prohibit them from obtaining more luxorious living accomodations. Because of threats of retaliation, by members of Mr. Lyles fellow gang members, oh yea, that hasn't been brought up by his family members yet!! Some of the officers have been temporarily displaced from their homes. Not only have these officers been temporarily displaced, they have had their property and front doors vandalized and threats have been spray painted on their front doors.
Now I dont know about you, but I'm having a hard time understanding some of the outrage at the police officers. Does anybody seem to have the same problem as me? Especially since many of the officers involved, as well as, officers who work that area everday, have given countless hours of their time to providing for a better lifestyle for the citizens of this particular area.
I hope I have cleared up a few issues for the readers of this forum and have enlighted some. Please stay tuned to the local news in the next couple of days, you may learn some more information on our fine outstanding Mr. Lyles.
Patrol Officer Thompson (who for the record is black and not African American, because to my knowledge he was not born in Africa) was conducting a mandatory patrol check of the area. A mandatory patrol check was set up in this area, a few years back, due to it being identified as a high crime area, and open air drug market. Officer Thompson observed a vehicle, which had backed over a curb, then over a sidewalk, just missing an electrical box, telephone box, and a tree. The vehicle was in a grassy common area between two apartment buildings, and was very close to striking, if not going through a lower level window, to someone's apartment.
Officer Thompson approached the vehicle and found the driver of the vehicle, who was later identifed at Jonothan Zacharias Lyles, passed out in the driver's seat of the vehicle, which was running. Officer Thompson notified his communcations of his findings and an ambulance was dispatched. The ambulance responded, but was told to stage in the area, as is practice for this particular housing complex. A few years back, someone in the complex called for an ambulance, for someone who had been feeling "sick" for a couple of days, and decided they needed a taxi ride to the hospital, during the middle of the night. The dedicated volunteer rescue squad people, who receive no pay, had to leave their beds, at home and respond to the station to get the ambulance out. The "sick" person's family decided it was taking too long for the ambulance to get there. Once the ambulance did arrive on the scene to help this "sick" person, the family decided to verbally abuse the ambulance crew and made threats to their safety. Then, in their great wisdom, they went outside and slashed all the tires to the ambulance. So now, another ambulance had to come from even further away, and delayed getting their loved "sick" one to the hospital, which was only a mile away. So now everytime an ambulance is called in this area, it has to stage before going to the call, and wait for the police to respond first and give the "ok" to come in.
Back to my original story. Two more patrol officers arrived on the scene to assist Officer Thompson. They were able to awake Mr. Lyles and detected that he had been consuming alcoholic beverages. Mr. Lyles was asked to exit his vehicle. Mr. Lyles was not immediately searched, because the officers had no probable cause to do that yet, as he was not under arrest yet. Mr. Lyles was given field sobriety test, as is always the case, when an officer believes someone is under the influence of an alcoholic beverage. Mr. Lyles was unable to complete these Standardized test and it was decided that he was going to be placed under arrest. As the officer attempted to handcuff Mr. Lyles, he then decided to pull away, and to resist arrest. Mr. Lyles reached into his pants and pulled out a loaded semi-automatic 9mm handgun and fired a round at one of the police officers. One of the officers re-acted to his training and deployed his firearm, and fired one round to the center mass area of Mr. Lyles, and struck him in the aforementioned area. Contrary to what a particular person on this forum believes, Any trained shooter whether it be a law enforcement officer, military personel, or trained citizen who is issued a handgun permit, is taught to aim and fire at the center mass of a target. The reason for using deadly force is to stop an immediate threat. Therefor the intention is not to mame or injury, which could possible allow the threat to continue.
Once Mr. Lyles had been struck, the police officers immediately began to perform medical treatment to him. The ambulance, which was staging nearby, was immediately called in, and was on the scene performing emergency medical treatment within three minutes. Mr. Lyles was transported to a nearby location, where a medivac helicopter was waiting. Family members of Mr. Lyles decided to respond to this location as well, and due to their disorderly actions, may have prolonged treatment being administered to him. Mr. Lyles was transported to PG Trauma Center, where he was later pronounced dead. Family members also responded to the hospital and became disorderly. Numerous police officers from the PG Police Department were dispatched to the hospital to disperse the disorderly crowd.
Mr. Lyles as you can see, had a lengthy criminal record, and was known to be actively participating in criminal activity. Mr. Lyles, and you can see, also had a history of carrying a concealed handgun, contrary to statements issued by some of his family members. I urge everyone to pay attention to a press conference, later today, and more information as to Mr. Lyles ongoing criminal activity will be divulged.
I also have to mention, that the apartment complex, that Mr. Lyles was on, is owned by a private property management company which has very strict rules. Mr. Lyles, not being a tenant, nor named in a lease to anyone on the property, was not even authorized to be on the property. There are numerous signs posted on the property which inform tenants and guest of the property rules. Therefor, Mr. Lyles was also trespassing, as he was not being accompanied by a tenant of the property at the time of this incident.
Later in the evening, some family members and numerous other people decided to hold a candle light vigal to honor our outstanding and law abiding citizen Mr. Lyles. During the vigal, a loud disturbance broke out among the particpants of this "peaceful gathering". Police officers, many of whom were asked to take time away from their families on their days off and to come to work, were on stand by in the area. Police assistance was requested by unknown persons. Numerous police officers responded to the scene and were greeted by a very hostile and unruly crowd. Officers were verbally abused and threats against their safety were made. The police officers used great restraint, and once they had somewhat quelled the disturbance, left the immediate area. The law abiding citizens, who were peacefully gathering to celebrate the life of a "thug" decided to then spray paint graffiti on the parking lot, the sidewalks, and on numerous buildings in the complex. The area was also littered with a very large amount of alcoholic beverage containers and debris.
To continue my story. A number of police officers had decided to move into the area, at the property managements request, and because their low salaries, prohibit them from obtaining more luxorious living accomodations. Because of threats of retaliation, by members of Mr. Lyles fellow gang members, oh yea, that hasn't been brought up by his family members yet!! Some of the officers have been temporarily displaced from their homes. Not only have these officers been temporarily displaced, they have had their property and front doors vandalized and threats have been spray painted on their front doors.
Now I dont know about you, but I'm having a hard time understanding some of the outrage at the police officers. Does anybody seem to have the same problem as me? Especially since many of the officers involved, as well as, officers who work that area everday, have given countless hours of their time to providing for a better lifestyle for the citizens of this particular area.
I hope I have cleared up a few issues for the readers of this forum and have enlighted some. Please stay tuned to the local news in the next couple of days, you may learn some more information on our fine outstanding Mr. Lyles.
KCM
Right Where I Belong
eclark said:
So he made a change....huh...his last offense was 12/16/2005. Not that long ago it seems.
Court System: District Court of Maryland - Criminal System
Case Number: 2E00275459Case Status:CLOSED
Case Disposition: FORWARDED TO CIRCUIT COURT
Case Type: CRIMINAL
Tracking Number: 056071123430
Issued Date: 12/16/2005
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Defendant Name:LYLES, JONATHAN Z
City:OXON HILL State:MDDOB:02/20/1981
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Charge No: 001CJIS Code:1 0233
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nomoney
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In the recent light of all the red's, I was made to realize my typo.nomoney said:guess what, someone was watching the white boy in the ihop parking lot getting shot too. I don't see any big hoopla from the "national aliance for whitey's" getting all up in arms about it?Why you may ask? No, he didn't have a gun, no he wasn't even driving the car, and hell, his part of the check was probably only 10$. But most people with common scence know that sometimes sh1t happens. Especially if you hang with the wrong crowd, drink, do drugs, or heck even walk out from paying for your pancakes. There are always consequences. Those with any right mind know there are coonsequences, some worse then others. That's life. Get over it-deal with it-learn from it.
I'm soooo sorry. It was only a typo-but because of the subject of this thread I guess it was one of the worst ones I could have made.Is it bad that it made me chuckle when I found it though?
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nomoney
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Guess it runs in the family. This is all of his sisters (Patina)
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SAHRAB
This is fun right?
nomoney said:In the recent light of all the red's, I was made to realize my typo.
Is it bad that it made me chuckle when I found it though?
I want to say yes, but i would have chuckled too
Steve
Enjoying life!
I was wondering the same thing. :shrug:vraiblonde said:I have a question:
Why would a white kid that hung out with the black kids be considered "cool"? Is a black kid that hangs out with the white kids considered "cool" too?
And for the record, we were left alone because we were as poor as everyone around us, not because we were "cool". And life wasn't all innocence and ignorance: people would urinate and defacate in the stairwell of our apartment building; cars were broken into all the time, some even found up on blocks in the morning; black guys would regularly make comments to my mother walking down the street, which she'd have to pretend she didn't hear. You get the idea. We stayed out of trouble because she did everything she could to keep us out of trouble and taught us right from wrong.