Is Charles Co. Racist?

virgovictoria

virgovictoria

Tight Pants and Lipstick
PREMO Member
Citizen said:
I have been following this thread for a couple of days but have had to restrain from replying due to reasons which I can not elaborate on. For those of you who aren't as priviledged, to some information as I am, I will inform you of the truth.
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To continue my story. A number of police officers had decided to move into the area, at the property managements request, and because their low salaries, prohibit them from obtaining more luxorious living accomodations. Because of threats of retaliation, by members of Mr. Lyles fellow gang members, oh yea, that hasn't been brought up by his family members yet!! Some of the officers have been temporarily displaced from their homes. Not only have these officers been temporarily displaced, they have had their property and front doors vandalized and threats have been spray painted on their front doors.
Now I dont know about you, but I'm having a hard time understanding some of the outrage at the police officers. Does anybody seem to have the same problem as me? Especially since many of the officers involved, as well as, officers who work that area everday, have given countless hours of their time to providing for a better lifestyle for the citizens of this particular area.
I hope I have cleared up a few issues for the readers of this forum and have enlighted some. Please stay tuned to the local news in the next couple of days, you may learn some more information on our fine outstanding Mr. Lyles.
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I posted earlier about the cyclical perpetuation of hate.... I just don't know how there will ever be an answer here. Do you see the minds and mentality of the folks "peacefully rioting" (nice oxymoron) ever getting it? Do you see the area actually EVER making enough significant progress to make decent folks want to move back? Do you see the family and friends (<~~now that's funny) seeing that it's wrong in a larger percentage than those who don't, that vandalism, drugs, gang violence and street law should really be abolished? I don't. I don't see how any of this can be solved, really. Eventually, the street mentality will either have to be contained or contintue to terrorize us on our own streets, screaming "racism" as it's strive to survive.
 
willie

willie

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This forthcoming press conference should be interesting but it will never appease the "eclarks". What has me bewildered is the action of the media. The selective reporting is too obvious when the interviews are only with members of his dysfunctional family also with criminal records. NBC and even worse, the Washington Post, report on the somber memorial and Lyle's sweet character while Fox 5 shows a liquor bottle littered "memorial" and a bunch of illiterate, loudmouth criminals.

The Post still has it on front page.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/20/AR2006032001813.html?nav=rss_metro
 
nomoney

nomoney

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You're right- the county did let Lyles down. His ass should have still been in prison. They let him down by letting him go so easily for all the other things he had done.

And he had fake ID on him at the time? Oh he was really striving to be a better member of the community wasn't he?
 
willie

willie

Well-Known Member
mainman said:
You're not new, how can you even say this has you bewildered?
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I used to think that so what if the Post is so far out in left field, I can sort through their bias and get a good idea what the news really is. Not anymore. Not just political and hate Bush type of bias but all areas. To stir up vigorous debate on any subject is fine but I'm bewildered that they would deliberately stir up hate.
 
SAHRAB

SAHRAB

This is fun right?
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willie said:
The Post still has it on front page.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/20/AR2006032001813.html?nav=rss_metro
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WashingtonPost said:
Man Shot by Deputy Had Vowed to Clean Up
Victim Had Several Run-Ins With the Law and Served 51/2 Months in Prison - They make it sound like he turned a new leaf, yet they ignore the fact that he had a violation in December of 2005 (3 months ago Link )
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WashingtonPost said:
Some friends and relatives said they believe the officers were motivated by racial prejudice -- Lyles was black, Walter and Rager are white, and Thompson is black -- or a personal grudge. Rager lives in the neighborhood where the shooting took place. - since there was a Black Officer (unless he was a Black Republican) the racism is ridiculous, and he had false ID how could it have been a Grudge?
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WashingtonPost said:
"Just recently, [Lyles] moved to Oxon Hill because he didn't want to be a part of Charles County, because [the police] were always harassing him," said longtime friend Chuck Davis, 24. - They werent "harrassing" him, he was a SERIAL offender, if he wouldnt break the laws, he wouldnt have interaction with the police
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willie

willie

Well-Known Member
nomoney said:
You're right- the county did let Lyles down. His ass should have still been in prison. They let him down by letting him go so easily for all the other things he had done.

And he had fake ID on him at the time? Oh he was really striving to be a better member of the community wasn't he?
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It looks like his family survives on these two words:
NOLLE PROSEQUI
 
SAHRAB

SAHRAB

This is fun right?
willie said:
I used to think that so what if the Post is so far out in left field, I can sort through their bias and get a good idea what the news really is. Not anymore. Not just political and hate Bush type of bias but all areas. To stir up vigorous debate on any subject is fine but I'm bewildered that they would deliberately stir up hate.
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Watch any news reports that involve guns.

The NRA is almost always portrayed as a Right Wing Pro-Gun lobbying group. yet Operation Cease Fire, Brady group, are almost always reported as Grass Roots citizens groups.

when the AWB (Assault Weapon Ban) was about to sunset almost all reporting was about how Automatic weapons would be available once again (giving someone who didnt know, the impression that the streets would be running in blood).

yet totally ignore that the AWB had nothing to do with Fully Automatic weapons (that was covered in an earlier 1980ish bill) and all it banned cosmetic aspects (hand grips, bayonet lugs etc) of Semi-Automatic (one bullet, per one pull of the trigger) rifles. they also ignored the fact that the EXACT same weapons have always been available (the entire time of the AWB) just with the cosmetic aspects removed (for instance, you could have a combination of 2 items, so alot of companys kept the hand grips and just removed the bayonet lug)

(yes 2A i know i simplified it)
 
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Pandora

New Member
nomoney said:
Guess it runs in the family. This is all of his sisters (Patina)

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Charge No: 001CJIS Code:2 0050
Description: DISORDERLY CONDUCT
Disposition: PBJ UNSUPERVISED
Disposition Date: 02/21/2006

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Charge No: 002CJIS Code:1 1415
Description: ASSAULT-SEC DEGREE
Disposition: NOLLE PROSEQUI
Disposition Date: 02/21/2006

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Charge No: 001CJIS Code:2 1313
Description: BATTERY
Disposition: GUILTY
Disposition Date: 07/17/1996

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Charge No: 002CJIS Code:2 1313
Description: BATTERY
Disposition: NOLLE PROSEQUI
Disposition Date: 07/17/1996 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Charge No: 003CJIS Code:2 5707
Description: TRESPASS:pRIVATE PROPERTY
Disposition: NOLLE PROSEQUI
Disposition Date: 07/17/1996 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Charge: Article:TASec:16Sub-Sec:303 Para:C Code:
Description: PERSON DRIVING MOTOR VEH. ON (HWY., PUBLIC USE PROPERTY) ON SUSPENDED LIC. & PRIVILEGE
If found guilty of lesser charge:
Charge: Article:Sec:Sub-Sec:para:Code:

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Charge No: 1CJIS Code:Statute:TA.21.902.b
Description: (Driving,Attempting To Drive) Vehicle While Impaired By Alcohol
Disposition: Guilty
Disposition Date: 03/01/2002

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Charge No: 2CJIS Code:Statute:TA.21.901.1.b
Description: Negligent Driving
Disposition: Nolle Prosequi
Disposition Date: 03/01/2002
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Charge No: 3CJIS Code:Statute:TA.16.101.a
Description: Driving Without License
Disposition: Nolle Prosequi
Disposition Date: 03/01/2002
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Charge No: 001CJIS Code:1 1415
Description: ASSAULT-SEC DEGREE
Disposition: NOLLE PROSEQUI
Disposition Date: 04/27/1999
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You have to look at the dates. Often when a person is locked up on charges, they have several charges pending. What the State’s Attorney and the Public Defender (or private attorney) does is plea bargain. The state will Nolle Prosequi charges 2, 3, and 4 in exchange for a plea on charge 1 (most often charge 1 has the most weight).

As an example, in dark green, I highlighted what appears to be a DWI, negligent driving and driving without a license all resulting from the same incident. She was found guilty of the DWI (this is the charge that holds the most weight) and the state N.P. the other 2 charges (meaning agreed to not prosecute).

I think the concept behind that is you know you did wrong, just confess and we will give you something in return, no time on the other charges. Right or wrong, I think the courts do this to save time.



And Nomoney,

Lyles wrote the judge and promised to be a good boy back in 2001. :smack:

I mean he promised and everything. :whistle:
 
cdsulhoff

cdsulhoff

New Member
Well, In my opinion there is one less drug dealing ,drunk driving A** in the world that could not get his act togehter.... You play with fire you are going to get burn....
 
willie

willie

Well-Known Member
Pandora said:
You have to look at the dates. Often when a person is locked up on charges, they have several charges pending. What the State’s Attorney and the Public Defender (or private attorney) does is plea bargain. The state will Nolle Prosequi charges 2, 3, and 4 in exchange for a plea on charge 1 (most often charge 1 has the most weight).

As an example, in dark green, I highlighted what appears to be a DWI, negligent driving and driving without a license all resulting from the same incident. She was found guilty of the DWI (this is the charge that holds the most weight) and the state N.P. the other 2 charges (meaning agreed to not prosecute).

I think the concept behind that is you know you did wrong, just confess and we will give you something in return, no time on the other charges. Right or wrong, I think the courts do this to save time.



And Nomoney,

Lyles wrote the judge and promised to be a good boy back in 2001. :smack:

I mean he promised and everything. :whistle:
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The problem I have when they drop charges is that it tells the criminal that he can get away with those particular offenses.
Negligent driving too close to DUI but driving without a license should not be dropped. Assault and trespassing should not be lumped together. These people have shown that they are beyond leniency.
 
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LADYT

New Member
I've read and reviewed everyone's opinion of the situation. Yes, this is a tragedy that this has happened. But you really have to keep it real and stop stereotyping people. People in high position in Charles County have also been driving drunk, using drugs and doing things that have never been mentioned.

So realistically racism is alive in Charles County. I'm born and raised here in Charles County.

Let that had been a Caucasian man shot by an African American State Trooper. The discussion would not have been about his the criminal background of the young man but about the African American Trooper. Really in Charles County if we all black, white, etc. Stick together and try to make the community a better place for all verses putting people down. We all have made mistakes in life.

Realistically you’re not the judge or the jury. You only have to answer to one man.
 
mainman

mainman

Set Trippin
LADYT said:
I've read and reviewed everyone's opinion of the situation. Yes, this is a tragedy that this has happened. But you really have to keep it real and stop stereotyping people.
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How are we not "keepin it real"?
 
nomoney

nomoney

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LADYT said:
I've read and reviewed everyone's opinion of the situation. Yes, this is a tragedy that this has happened. But you really have to keep it real and stop stereotyping people. People in high position in Charles County have also been driving drunk, using drugs and doing things that have never been mentioned.

So realistically racism is alive in Charles County. I'm born and raised here in Charles County.
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So because people in a "high position" also drive drunk-that makes racism alive and well? :confused: Are you trying to say then that only higher ups are white? Because I find that racist.

Let that had been a Caucasian man shot by an African American State Trooper. The discussion would not have been about his the criminal background of the young man but about the African American Trooper. Really in Charles County if we all black, white, etc. Stick together and try to make the community a better place for all verses putting people down. We all have made mistakes in life.

Realistically you’re not the judge or the jury. You only have to answer to one man.
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I personally would have been running off at the mouth about a white thug the same way people have been about this particular thug. thugs are thugs no matter the color. This one got what he deserved, had he been white, yellow, purple, or polkadotted-he still would have got what he deserved. If you can't see that and are using the color of the victims skin as an excuse, then you're the one that has the "color" issue. :yay:
 
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