Jack Rusell Puppies

[Cowgirl]

Apparently you havent met my yorkies yet. If you did lay your eyes upon them then you would know...............

I can't stand yorkies.... But I was asking what specifics steps do you take? Can you look at your biatches and say, "Well, her ears aren't set exactly like what they should be (as per the AKC yorkie standards), so I'll look for a dog with perfect ear set...etc.

 

[Geek]

If we stop buying these puppies and rescue instead, the breeders will have to find another "habit" to enjoy.

 

[Cowgirl]

It has been my observation that most of the horsey people who post on this board breed one or more breeds of dogs. They also tend to have more than just horses and dogs on their land.

From what I've gathered over the years from reading different threads, they tend to support their habit (horses and such) by turning their habit into a business so that parts of it can be tax deductible and so that they can use what they love doing to provide an income which in turn gets put back into the farm.

I'm thinking it's the norm for folks who spend the better part of each and every day tending to animals to breed and sell. I see it more as a choice of livelyhood rather than someone who sits back on their couch eating bonbons paid for by money made off their breeding biatches.

I know there are people who abuse their animals and have trailers or cages full of 'em for the sole purpose of producing offspring, but I don't believe all people can be generalized into this category.

I also understand Geek's point. For every new litter brought into this world and placed in homes, those are no longer homes that have room for the animals who are already here and face death simply because they have no one who will take them in.

Those against any purposeful breeding don't understand how those who breed can do so with clear conscious.

Those who enjoy their animals and see the breeding process as a normal part of raising animals do not understand why some others consider them to be animal abusers.

The two groups will never understand each other and this conflict will never be resolved.

I breed livestock....goats, sheep, cattle, etc. These animals are used for a purpose...food. If I can't sell one of them, they'll go in my freezer. I would never breed a dog or a cat...because we can't eat them. I know that there are more dogs and cats than are needed, so I won't add to the population. :shrug:

 

[Nickel]

Are you not grown adults? You can't hear tough words about the actions you take?


Say I made pancakes for my family. 4 people and I made 18 pancakes. They eat, they are full, but I keep making pancakes. I know most will go in the garbage, but I want to make the perfect pancake, So I will keep making more. And check this out, now my pancakes are making more pancakes, that will go in the garbage too. But I will keep making pancakes, even with all the garbages full, more pancakes.


Now pretend my pancakes are dogs.

Geek, did you know that you can freeze the pancakes? Then you can take one out, pop it in the toaster, and enjoy a nice homecooked breakfast whenever you want.

 

[Geek]

I breed livestock....goats, sheep, cattle, etc. These animals are used for a purpose...food. If I can't sell one of them, they'll go in my freezer. I would never breed a dog or a cat...because we can't eat them. I know that there are more dogs and cats than are needed, so I won't add to the population. :shrug:

In case you are wondering, Cowgirl is a responsible breeder

 

[SouthernMdRocks]

Are you not grown adults? You can't hear tough words about the actions you take?


Say I made pancakes for my family. 4 people and I made 18 pancakes. They eat, they are full, but I keep making pancakes. I know most will go in the garbage, but I want to make the perfect pancake, So I will keep making more. And check this out, now my pancakes are making more pancakes, that will go in the garbage too. But I will keep making pancakes, even with all the garbages full, more pancakes.


Now pretend my pancakes are dogs.

If you can get your pancakes to make more pancakes then I say "you're one helluva cook". Let's get real....there is a difference between tough words vs. just plain rude!

 

[Cowgirl]

Geek, did you know that you can freeze the pancakes? Then you can take one out, pop it in the toaster, and enjoy a nice homecooked breakfast whenever you want.

If only we could do that with the puppies.

 

[persimmoncf]

I breed livestock....goats, sheep, cattle, etc. These animals are used for a purpose...food. If I can't sell one of them, they'll go in my freezer. I would never breed a dog or a cat...because we can't eat them. I know that there are more dogs and cats than are needed, so I won't add to the population. :shrug:

you would starve if you ate my yorkies

 

[Geek]

Geek, did you know that you can freeze the pancakes? Then you can take one out, pop it in the toaster, and enjoy a nice homecooked breakfast whenever you want.

My freezer is full of crotch hair. I afraid I will go bald down there and need crotch hair plugs.

 

[Nickel]

If only we could do that with the puppies.

We can. Why, just the other day I saw Paso tell someone to pop their puppy in the freezer.

 

[krazd_kat]

What most hobby breeders fail to recognize is that even though Yorkies are too cute and adorable and easily sold, JRT's cute easily sold, Chihuahuas the same thing... and all the designer mutts being bred and sold now, these dogs wind up at the shelters in very large numbers on a daily basis. Unless YOU spay or neuter these dogs before your sell them, you cannot guarantee that their offspring (or themselves even, REGARDLESS of what your contract says) will not be in the shelter looking for homes.

Back to the sad reality, I just had another call from the shelter... no, I'm full of other dogs rescued from the shelter and I have no foster homes, so this dog got the needle as soon as they rec'd my reply.

THIS breaks our hearts on a daily basis, and to see more dogs bred adds to it. If you've never walked through the shelter and talked to the techs that do the killing, try it sometime, see if your opinion changes.

Oh and guess what, these small dogs are every bit as hard to get adopted as the big dogs I rescue, why? Because many of them aren't good with children, especially once they have hit the shelter system.

 

[Geek]

If you can get your pancakes to make more pancakes then I say "you're one helluva cook". Let's get real....there is a difference between tough words vs. just plain rude!

Are you that thin skinned? Seriously, you like to watch pooches screw, I figure you can handle some tough talk.

 

[kwillia]

If we stop buying these puppies and rescue instead, the breeders will have to find another "habit" to enjoy.

My brother and my sister feel exactly the way you do about breeding. But they include the human species into that opinion. If you have more than one kid, you are being selfish and imprudent. In fact, they believe you shouldn't have had any as there are already to many kids in foster homes that need a family.

 

[persimmoncf]

We can. Why, just the other day I saw Paso tell someone to pop their puppy in the freezer.

 

[Geek]

My brother and my sister feel exactly the way you do about breeding. But they include the human species into that opinion. If you have more than one kid, you are being selfish and imprudent. In fact, they believe you shouldn't have had any as there are already to many kids in foster homes that need a family.

I agree you shouldn't have more kids than you can afford.

 

[Cowgirl]

Are you that thin skinned? Seriously, you like to watch pooches screw, I figure you can handle some tough talk.

They're getting all defensive...but I still haven't gotten my questions answered. :shrug:

 

[Geek]

They're getting all defensive...but I still haven't gotten my questions answered. :shrug:

You won't. It is common sense to stop making something if there are too many.

 

[SouthernMdRocks]

now I am hungry

Geeks opening up an IHOP!!

 

[SouthernMdRocks]

good post

 

[kwillia]

I agree you shouldn't have more kids than you can afford.

No. They fully believe you should not breed your own at all. If you can afford to take care of kids you should be going to shelters and bringing them home to raise. All of those kids not being raised by caring, loving, supportive parents get kicked to the curb at the ripe old age of 18 without ever having benefited from a secure, stable home.