Jury Reaches Verdict in Muhammad Sentence

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Originally posted by Pete
Yea yea, heard it all before. You still don't scare me.

you either have acorns the size of manhattan, or you are trying to work me over with a little rev-psych :cool:
 
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Bruzilla

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It only takes one reporter to take up this clown's case in ten or twenty years, after he's become a devout religious man and savior of hundreds of prisioner's souls, and paint him as a changed man to get people to either overturn his conviction or make him a celebrity and get him out of jail on the "hasn't he suffered enough? After all, it was the other guy who did all the really bad stuff" argument.

People who think that a life sentence is worse than a death sentence should look at prision appeals to see they are wrong. When was the last time you heard of an inmate doing a life sentence appealing for a change to a death sentence? This happens all the time when you're headed the other way.
 

Pete

Repete
Originally posted by Bruzilla
It only takes one reporter to take up this clown's case in ten or twenty years, after he's become a devout religious man and savior of hundreds of prisioner's souls, and paint him as a changed man to get people to either overturn his conviction or make him a celebrity and get him out of jail on the "hasn't he suffered enough? After all, it was the other guy who did all the really bad stuff" argument.

Karla Faye Tucker

People who think that a life sentence is worse than a death sentence should look at prision appeals to see they are wrong. When was the last time you heard of an inmate doing a life sentence appealing for a change to a death sentence? This happens all the time when you're headed the other way.

What better way to torture them. Let them keep a glimmer of hope then snatch it away. They will get the picture.

I wonder if they have ever done a survey of people who got life in prison and grew old there? Ask 80 year olds who have life in hindsight if they could go back and change would they have rather been executed than pacing a cell for 50 years.

I am not saying I am arguing against the death penalty, I am saying the agony of pacing a cell with no chance of ever getting out is longer lasting than the 4 minutes until you pass out from lethal injection.
 

Penn

Dancing Up A Storm
Originally posted by Flo
What was the name of the American guy that was found in Afghanistan after the uprising? What ever happened to him?

He was another one that should have been hung by his whatever, and shot!
You're talking about John Walker Lindh?

He was found guilty and sentenced to 20 years in prison.

Many people think he did get off too easy, myself included.

Pete, I have to disagree with you on the life imprisonment vs. the death penalty. There's always a chance this POS - John Mohammed - could get "rehabilitated", paroled, escape, sent to a minimal security- type institution, etc.
Let him and his younger braintrust, Lee Malvo - rot on deathrow for 6 months, deliberating their fates.

That's good enough for me.
 
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Dymphna

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Originally posted by Pete
But the suffering is only for a few moments, fade to black. Put them in a cell and make them walk in circles for eternity is LONG suffering.

yeah, but it doesn't happen that way. Instead he would get fresh air in the yard everyday, access to gym equipment, TV, internet, the law library etc. And some point in the distant future, when the prisons are overcrowded. He gets out for "good behavior."

Just get rid of him now and there is one less freak in the world.
 

nomoney

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Originally posted by cmcdanal
yeah, but it doesn't happen that way. Instead he would get fresh air in the yard everyday, access to gym equipment, TV, internet, the law library etc. And some point in the distant future, when the prisons are overcrowded. He gets out for "good behavior."

Just get rid of him now and there is one less freak in the world.

Exactly; I'd rather have my tax dollars going towards his execution then toward his college education, his meals, and his free wieght training for 80 years, Just my opinion.
 

Tonio

Asperger's Poster Child
Originally posted by penncam
There's always a chance this POS - John Mohammed - could get "rehabilitated", paroled, escape, sent to a minimal security- type institution, etc.

Maybe not minimum security, since we're talking about first-degree murder. But the other stuff, sure. Why do we even tolerate our court system doing that?

If I sentenced him to lifetime isolation, there would be no escape route since his cell wouldn't be designed with accessible doors or windows. There would just be a little tray for sliding in food, with no utensils. To mess up his sense of time, mealtimes would be staggered. Lights on 24 hours a day. No entertainment of any kind. As far as he would know, there would be no outside. Not even a shower or a toilet, just a hole in the floor.
 

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Originally posted by penncam
You're talking about John Lindsey Walker?

He was found guilty and sentenced to 20 years in prison.

Many people think he did get off too easy, myself included.

Pete, I have to disagree with you on the life imprisonment vs. the death penalty. There's always a chance this POS - John Mohammed - could get "rehabilitated", paroled, escape, sent to a minimal security- type institution, etc.
Let him and his younger braintrust, Lee Malvo - rot on deathrow for 6 months, deliberating their fates.

That's good enough for me.

On JLW, the sentence was light because he plead out for exchange of information and we dropped all the charges except one for carrying a hand grenade and rifle in war against the allies. He was not convicted of treason because he joined the Taliban with no knowledge of Anti-American acts.

As far as Mohommed, if he was given the life, he would have been hit with the other 12 murders one right after another until he ran across the death penalty or consecutive lifes. Either way, he wudn't gettin out.
 
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Flo

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Originally posted by Tonio
If I sentenced him to lifetime isolation, there would be no escape route since his cell wouldn't be designed with accessible doors or windows. There would just be a little tray for sliding in food, with no utensils. To mess up his sense of time, mealtimes would be staggered. Lights on 24 hours a day. No entertainment of any kind. As far as he would know, there would be no outside. Not even a shower or a toilet, just a hole in the floor.

Then you would have some folks sniveling about him not being treated "humanely!" :rolleyes:
 

Ehesef

Yo Gabba Gabba
Originally posted by Flo
Then you would have some folks sniveling about him not being treated "humanely!" :rolleyes:
Took the words right out of my mouth...

But of course the people they shot were treated humanely too right?:rolleyes:
 
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Flo

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I feel that the folks they killed were given death by their decisions, without their victims never having the chance for any appeals.

Sorry, I have no sympathy.
 

Penn

Dancing Up A Storm
Originally posted by Ehesef
Took the words right out of my mouth...

But of course the people they shot were treated humanely too right?:rolleyes:
:yeahthat: I don't think society as a ho (my gosh, I have a tiger infection!) would take to torturing inmates too well.

I mean ! Sticking 'em in a room with no windows or doors, just a slot to insert food on trays?

Where would they go poo-poo?
 

Hessian

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I tutored GED's in a max sec prison for 4 years in college.
You know what?
I feel sorry for those guards who have to supervise these critters.
I remember seeing one with a cast from wrist to shoulder--yup...a vicious fight between wild-eyed prisoners....She'll face aches & pains for how many years for trying to tame the prisoners?
How about the risk of aids & communicable diseases? TB? Spitting is everyday...biting common.
Not to mention the endless attempts to smuggle in items.

For the sake of the guards that have to guard lifers...finish the punishment quickly.

Anyway...this is rarely entered into the execution argument.
 

Tonio

Asperger's Poster Child
Originally posted by Hessian
Anyway...this is rarely entered into the execution argument.

You're right. Another argument for lifetime isolation, in my view. The guards would face far less danger if the prisoners aren't ever allowed out of their cells.
 

vraiblonde

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It's interesting to know why prisoners gets bennies like special meals, cable, video games, etc. It's because the inmate population is a seething cauldron of violence and hatred and the "powers that be" think giving them some stuff will keep them from rioting.

So let's see......they commit violent crimes, they go to jail, they threaten more violence if they don't get what they want....and the Governor or whoever makes these decisions gives it to them. :biggrin: :crazy:
 
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