black dog
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Infant Protection Act in 2002
Kamala great on the debate stage?
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I'm just keeping it real. Should there be a line, and where does the line get drawn? At birth? 2 seconds before birth? When the kid is 9 or 10? How about a PITA 20 year old who won't get a job and get his ass out of the house? Should his parents be able to abort him?
Where should the line be?
It's not extreme at all to ask this question. You just don't have an answer.
Why do you keep saying that when you know damn good and well that laws can be overturned and amended at the whim of Congress?
Currently abortion is left up to the states per the Supreme Court, yet the Democrat candidate for President has been outspoken in her desire for federal laws "protecting" abortion with no restrictions. She's been clear. AND the Democrats want to "remake" the Supreme Court so it doesn't hand down decisions that conflict with their agenda - Biden just said so himself and Kamala has been vocally supportive of that.
So now we're having a discussion about it.
black dog
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You and your illrational tangents.
Again, we already have federal and state laws that fully cover your post.
I'm good with the Federal laws and what States decide to do.
I'm never going to have or be involved in a Abortion.
black dog
Free America
And it's going to stay with The States..
To much worry about what's on the news and what if's.
Do yourself a favor and turn the propaganda box off.
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Chopticon64
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Let’s just be honest here, Trump laid the groundwork to overturn Roe v Wade and it happened. She posted multiple times that it didn’t mean that abortion would be banned, now of course it is in some red states.
She will never question Trump or his decisions.
So now I and half the country are supposed murderers, Satanists, pedophiles, and whatever new label Trump uses next week.
She’s out of touch, severely, and drifting further into it.
She will never question Trump or his decisions.
So now I and half the country are supposed murderers, Satanists, pedophiles, and whatever new label Trump uses next week.
She’s out of touch, severely, and drifting further into it.
Excuse me, YOU are the one who said you think abortion is fine up until they cut the umbilical cord.
Yeah, and we used to have laws against rioting and looting, and we can see how that worked out.
You have so much trust in government. Like some teenager or something.
PeoplesElbow
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So if someone does something to cause a woman to lose her unborn child is it assault and battery or murder, please explain why you chose what you did.
black dog
Free America
The lesson has always been, don't live in a liberal sh!thole city.
Amen to that. I stay as far from Democrats as I can.
CPUSA
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Name just one where all abortions are banned...
Chopticon64
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Alabama, there are 13 others:
All abortion after the point of conception–the fertilization of an egg–is illegal. There are no exceptions for rape or incest.
This does not only include in-office procedures, but also at-home abortions. Healthcare providers can not prescribe medication via telemedicine for an abortion.
Can You Still Get an Abortion in Alabama? - Women's Care Medical Center
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Guttmacher Institute says you are wrong as Alabama allows for exceptions when the life or health of the pregnant person is threatened. If there are exceptions then it isn't a total ban. Here waste some more time - https://www.guttmacher.org/state-policy/explore/state-policies-abortion-bansAlabama, there are 13 others:
All abortion after the point of conception–the fertilization of an egg–is illegal. There are no exceptions for rape or incest.
This does not only include in-office procedures, but also at-home abortions. Healthcare providers can not prescribe medication via telemedicine for an abortion.
Can You Still Get an Abortion in Alabama? - Women's Care Medical Center
Read about abortion in Alabama on this page. Women's Care Medical Center offers free pregnancy services from 2 locations. Contact us.
Chopticon64
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So only in a case where the mother will die is an abortion allowed. That’s the only instance it’s allowed, she would otherwise die.
Boggles my mind that you don’t consider that a ban.
Look up the definition of "ban" and come back.
I'll agree that potential life begins at the moment of conception. But for me that's neither here nor there. Your fingernails are living tissue and most people don't think twice about clipping their nails. The weeds in your yard are life, yet we spray the chit out of them. Ants are life but I didn't feel one millimeter of remorse at squishing the one that bit me the other day, the little bastard.
We can get all misty about *human* life, but honestly most humans suck so screw them.
What exactly are we so worked up about when it comes to abortion? Especially early abortions?
I think a lot of times people get worked up about something because it's outside their norm and they haven't really thought it through logically and pragmatically. It's like Democrats being rabidly against capital punishment for violent criminals, but they'll have an abortion every week. They won't castrate a serial rapist, but they'll damn sure castrate a little boy who wants to wear ballerina costumes. It makes no sense. And the anti-abortion argument makes no sense either.
Killing a baby after it's born is just sadism. Those people have absolutely no regard for human life. Imagine looking at a helpless newborn, then plunging a pair of scissors into its brain. What do you even say about someone who would do that Mengele bullshit?
But a cell blob that has potential to grow into that baby? Meh.
22AcaciaAve
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Republicans need to back away from the abortion argument. Trump has this right. It's a fine line between the evangelistic coalition and their right to life crusade, and the women's right's and pro choice groups. Republicans have been losing their edge in this area for years. The overturning of Roe v. Wade was the correct thing do by the SCOTUS as abortion is not a right that should be granted by the constitution, but deep red states have gone so far on it that it is a backlash that is costing the republicans. Trump has walked this fine line very well by throwing it all back on the states.
Some people want Trump to support a federal ban on abortion. That would be political suicide and Trump knows it. He has punted the ball to the states to let them fight it out. And that is the correct thing to do. A federal ban on abortion will bring a tidal wave against conservatives. There is no good reason to do that.
Some people want Trump to support a federal ban on abortion. That would be political suicide and Trump knows it. He has punted the ball to the states to let them fight it out. And that is the correct thing to do. A federal ban on abortion will bring a tidal wave against conservatives. There is no good reason to do that.