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OccamsRazor

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It always perplexes me that those who scream at the top of their lungs about slavery never really address the parts about how 100% of slaves were sold into slavery by their own people. Also, that the slave trade was actually created by the English government. How come no one ever gets on a plane and goes over to London or West Africa and protests there? I guess its just easier to sit at home and rail against it on Facebook and Twitter or to make as little effort as possible to complain here in the US where you are somewhat protected. Put your money where your mouth is and go rail against offenses that are in the past where they originally started.
 

PeoplesElbow

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It always perplexes me that those who scream at the top of their lungs about slavery never really address the parts about how 100% of slaves were sold into slavery by their own people. Also, that the slave trade was actually created by the English government. How come no one ever gets on a plane and goes over to London or West Africa and protests there? I guess its just easier to sit at home and rail against it on Facebook and Twitter or to make as little effort as possible to complain here in the US where you are somewhat protected. Put your money where your mouth is and go rail against offenses that are in the past where they originally started.
I thought it was the Dutch. Also it is rarely mentioned that Maryland was in the union but still had slavery and how the emancipation proclamation only freed the slaves in the confederacy, not the ones in Maryland.
 

SamSpade

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“The amount of violations of human rights in a country is always an inverse function of the amount of complaints about human rights violations heard from there. The greater the number of complaints being aired, the better protected are human rights in that country.”
― Daniel Patrick Moynihan

And this makes perfect sense - because one of those human rights, is the right to complain - or better worded "to petition the government for a redress of grievances".

People complain when they CAN - and when they can't - or they have lost the will to hope it can - they don't. I often make reference to my surprising experience in a Russian orphanage and I was told it would be the case - the babies don't cry, because they know no one is coming.
 
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KingFish

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People complain when they CAN - and when they can't - or they have lost the will to hope it can - they don't. I often make reference to my surprising experience in a Russian orphanage and I was told it would be the case - the babies don't cry, because they know no one is coming.

I heard the same thing about China Orphanages.
 

SamSpade

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I heard the same thing about China Orphanages.

Didn't see that - my daughter's orphanage was quite nice - computers, gym, newer building. The SLEEPING arrangements were cramped, but it was weird - a VERY large room with all the bed rather close. I have hours of video. Having seen DESPERATELY poor orphanages in Ethiopia - I was pleasantly surprised.

Not to steer the conversation away - because I only mentioned it to illustrate that when people lose hope, they just stop complaining. I HAVE heard Chinese sneer about reading their own news, because they know it's baloney - ditto the Russians, at least under Communism, because they knew it was all crap. And they wonder why WE pay attention to it, because they assume ours is all crap, too.
 

Bare-ya-cuda

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Didn't see that - my daughter's orphanage was quite nice - computers, gym, newer building. The SLEEPING arrangements were cramped, but it was weird - a VERY large room with all the bed rather close. I have hours of video. Having seen DESPERATELY poor orphanages in Ethiopia - I was pleasantly surprised.

Not to steer the conversation away - because I only mentioned it to illustrate that when people lose hope, they just stop complaining. I HAVE heard Chinese sneer about reading their own news, because they know it's baloney - ditto the Russians, at least under Communism, because they knew it was all crap. And they wonder why WE pay attention to it, because they assume ours is all crap, too.
Our news is pretty much crap now as well.
 

Gilligan

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The founders of this country were slavers, rapists, torturers, and murderers of minorities. Why they are held in such high esteem escapes me.

Because you have no clue who they really were....for starters. You regurgitate CRT and other far left anti-US narratives on a very regular basis. You always have.
 

SamSpade

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It always perplexes me that those who scream at the top of their lungs about slavery never really address the parts about how 100% of slaves were sold into slavery by their own people.

It does perplex me at how often the narrative is made that somehow, ONLY Africans were ever enslaved. You'd really have to know virtually nothing about history, to believe that. Slavery has been around for thousands of years. Every major civilization you can think of, had it in abundance - the Egyptians, the Persians, Ancient India, China, the Greeks, the Romans (it's been estimated that as many as 30-40% of all people in Italy itself - were slaves), the Vikings, the Aztecs and Mayans, Native Americans. St. Patrick was sold as a slave to the Irish - Captain John Smith, to the Turks.

It has of course, taken different forms - Roman slavery was often brutal, and they had few rights; Greek slavery was similar but it's hard to describe - it was just accepted as the way things were. In the New World, slaves often met their fate as a human sacrifice. Ditto China.

And it's estimated that as many as 40-50 MILLION people are enslaved - TODAY. And we don't mean, impoverished, or struggling to get by - THAT is everywhere.
 

Calistress

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Ok…well then just leave. If you think you can find a better country, where they don’t have things that hurt your feelings. Nothings stopping you.
If I may ...


Reckon you never heard of the Missouri Compromise? Or the the Republican Party, a group of White Men, was founded on, in part, to ending slavery? Or that is was democrats that did all the slaving, raping, torture, and murders of black folk?
Didn't think so.

I reckon you don't wonder why Republicans have to go back to the 1860s to tout how great Republican policies are for minorities? And I reckon you don't understand that whether the party was Democrat or Republicans, they were all white men writing and instituting the laws.

Minorities don't give a flying frick which party it was back in the 1800s and 1900s who worked against slavery policies, and Jim Crow, and lynchings, and the rapes and murders of minority infants, children, and adults. We care what a party's policies are now.
 

Calistress

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It does perplex me at how often the narrative is made that somehow, ONLY Africans were ever enslaved. You'd really have to know virtually nothing about history, to believe that. Slavery has been around for thousands of years. Every major civilization you can think of, had it in abundance - the Egyptians, the Persians, Ancient India, China, the Greeks, the Romans (it's been estimated that as many as 30-40% of all people in Italy itself - were slaves), the Vikings, the Aztecs and Mayans, Native Americans. St. Patrick was sold as a slave to the Irish - Captain John Smith, to the Turks.

It has of course, taken different forms - Roman slavery was often brutal, and they had few rights; Greek slavery was similar but it's hard to describe - it was just accepted as the way things were. In the New World, slaves often met their fate as a human sacrifice. Ditto China.

And it's estimated that as many as 40-50 MILLION people are enslaved - TODAY. And we don't mean, impoverished, or struggling to get by - THAT is everywhere.

You obviously don't know anything about US slavery based on the sentences you managed to string together. Equating the US system of chattel slavery from the 1600s through the 1900s - can't forget debtors prisons and peonage - is quite different my friend.
 

Calistress

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Because you have no clue who they really were....for starters. You regurgitate CRT and other far left anti-US narratives on a very regular basis. You always have.

You only have to read the letters and documents written by these people by their own hands. Visit a library son.
 

Bare-ya-cuda

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I reckon you don't wonder why Republicans have to go back to the 1860s to tout how great Republican policies are for minorities? And I reckon you don't understand that whether the party was Democrat or Republicans, they were all white men writing and instituting the laws.

Minorities don't give a flying frick which party it was back in the 1800s and 1900s who worked against slavery policies, and Jim Crow, and lynchings, and the rapes and murders of minority infants, children, and adults. We care what a party's policies are now.
So you’re telling me that today one party or the other is holding minorities back? Please elaborate
 

Calistress

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And just look at all the remarkably successful Democrat-run cities full of happy minorities. :lmao:

Or, we could look at the remarkably successful Republican-run red states. Nine out of the 10 poorest states are red. In fact, they've voted Republican for the last 4 elections.

Also, I hear Texas and Florida are doing a bang-up job with the pandemic. Hopefully, Texas will be able to keep the power grid going to keep those ventilators running in the winter. I don't expect they've planned ahead to have extra fuel for the backup generators.
 

Bare-ya-cuda

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Or, we could look at the remarkably successful Republican-run red states. Nine out of the 10 poorest states are red. In fact, they've voted Republican for the last 4 elections.

Also, I hear Texas and Florida are doing a bang-up job with the pandemic. Hopefully, Texas will be able to keep the power grid going to keep those ventilators running in the winter. I don't expect they've planned ahead to have extra fuel for the backup generators.
Of course you don’t mention California’s power grid or job they have done with the pandemic.
 
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