mAlice
professional daydreamer
vraiblonde said:Fetch! Roll over! Play dead! .... uh...oh....
I'm so glad I didn't have a mouth full of something.
vraiblonde said:Fetch! Roll over! Play dead! .... uh...oh....
luckystar said:I know I'm about to open a can of worms:
So were the owners stepping on them?luckystar said:It's not the same, but if they were kept in a pond like they're supposed to it would be different. They do come to their owners, like any other pet.
I'm not saying I'm a vegetarian/activist or anything like that, but Koi are meant to be pets. Pets are meant to be treated fairly, and there are laws in place to make sure that they are.
PJumper said:Each person supposed to have certain amount of living space too. So who do I call if I know of families living in a cramp house/apartment to save for their child's education, so they don't end up in welfare? Is that a violation too?
I do eat at Bon Buffet and I don't sense too much stress for the Koi who swims leisurely in the tank waiting to be fed. Now the owners will be force to either spend a lot of money for a new fish tank or just go ahead and include the Koi in their menu. Please be realistic and don't start a welfare program for the fish.
vrailblonde said:No, I try to avoid the Bon Buffet.
Is the tank at least clean? Because you'd think that would gross out the diners to have this nasty fish tank sitting where they're trying to eat.
Oh...wait...what was I thinking? They're at the Bon Buffet - I don't think a grody fish tank will bother them.
You may be forcing them to handle it this way:luckystar said:I know Bon Buffet's gross. Who's really going to care if they go out of business because they're treating animals poorly? I know I won't. It's not like there aren't plenty of other, better, Chinese restaurants in town. As for people needing living space and having issues you might consider similar, they can do something about it, but animals can't.
Kill me for caring.
Barbra said:BTW, the last White Cloud fish died on Friday the 13th.
luckystar said:I know Bon Buffet's gross. Who's really going to care if they go out of business because they're treating animals poorly? I know I won't. It's not like there aren't plenty of other, better, Chinese restaurants in town. As for people needing living space and having issues you might consider similar, they can do something about it, but animals can't.
Kill me for caring.
I think you'll find the practice of maintaining Koi was intended to have a readily available food source that was also somewhat decorative.luckystar said:It's not the same, but if they were kept in a pond like they're supposed to it would be different. They do come to their owners, like any other pet.
Barbra said:Yup. Not sure what happened w/ the last one. Totally healthy looking and eating flakes when I left for work at 0630. Went to feed them dinner around 1830 hours and he was in two pieces on the bottom of the tank. Wasn't even enough left to flush and my Black Skirt Tetra was munching on his bottom half when I was trying to get the pieces out of the tank.
Woodyspda said:Have you ever seen a real Koi pond???? Those buggers are packed in there as tight as sardines and definitely do not have the 240 gallons of water each that you claim they should have.... Every other family in Hawaii should be fined by your logic.
Carp will continue to grow as long as they are fed and there is room to grow.
Be real....
luckystar said:Yes, I have seen a real koi pond. Do some research before you post.
To get you started, here's the source of my "claim:" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koi#Keeping_koi
aps45819 said:I think you'll find the practice of maintaining Koi was intended to have a readily available food source that was also somewhat decorative.
Since the fish have grown to big for the tank, sicing Animal Control on them will probably leave the owners with their only option being to kill the fish.
See the credibility Wiki has....luckystar said:here's the source of my "claim:" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koi#Keeping_koi
The common carp is a hardy fish, and koi retain that durability. Koi must be kept in a 2-4 gallon container per fish. This means two koi would require 4-8 gallons of space.
elaine said:In a perfect world....like the zoo, maybe.
Even when they do have all the space that's mentioned, they still all congregate at the food end of the pond.
luckystar said:It's not a perfect world. But we can try and help fix the things that aren't.
And even at a zoo where they would have all that space, and do congregate together, they have the option to roam. There must be a reason behind them needing that space, and I'm trying my best to find it...