Kudos to The Supreme Court

Richard Cranium

New Member
You guys are kidding, right?

-Was there an immediate threat to the driver or the public?
-Was all lesser methods employed to stop the Caddy (spike strips)?
-When is it okay to go from a routine stop to deadly force at a traffic stop?

The Justice System has once again failed America.
 

mv_princess

mv = margaritaville
Richard Cranium said:
You guys are kidding, right?

-Was there an immediate threat to the driver or the public?
-Was all lesser methods employed to stop the Caddy (spike strips)?
-When is it okay to go from a routine stop to deadly force at a traffic stop?

The Justice System has once again failed America.
So it was ok that he hit a cop car, and ran?
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
Richard Cranium said:
You guys are kidding, right?

-Was there an immediate threat to the driver or the public?
-Was all lesser methods employed to stop the Caddy (spike strips)?
-When is it okay to go from a routine stop to deadly force at a traffic stop?

The Justice System has once again failed America.
Anytime someone runs from Johny Law, i think they meet all the criteria you mention above.

-When is it okay to go from a routine stop to deadly force at a traffic stop? When they RUN it's no longer a "routine stop", and now the vehicle they are driving has become a deadly weapon. Driving down 235 at 100 MPH while evading the cops should be treated no differently than if he was in Wal mart pointing a gun at all the customers. Take him out before he/ she kills someone else.
 

sparkyaclown

Active Member
itsbob said:
Anytime someone runs from Johny Law, i think they meet all the criteria you mention above.

-When is it okay to go from a routine stop to deadly force at a traffic stop? When they RUN it's no longer a "routine stop", and now the vehicle they are driving has become a deadly weapon. Driving down 235 at 100 MPH while evading the cops should be treated no differently than if he was in Wal mart pointing a gun at all the customers. Take him out before he/ she kills someone else.
:yeahthat: Since I'm sure the cops are not psychics and therefore cannot predict what would happen had they not stopped him, I think they were fully justified in using deadly force.
 

pingrr

Well-Known Member
itsbob said:
Anytime someone runs from Johny Law, i think they meet all the criteria you mention above.

-When is it okay to go from a routine stop to deadly force at a traffic stop? When they RUN it's no longer a "routine stop", and now the vehicle they are driving has become a deadly weapon. Driving down 235 at 100 MPH while evading the cops should be treated no differently than if he was in Wal mart pointing a gun at all the customers. Take him out before he/ she kills someone else.


you could also argue that if they hadn't chased him that he would not have maintained that high speed.

A lot a places have rules that say the police can not get in a high speed chace unless a felony or a crime againet another person was commited.
 

Richard Cranium

New Member
Spike strips could have been deployed. A roadblock could have been instituted.

I've been to Coweta County, there's long stretches of road that could easily have been blocked off. It's not some Dukes of Hazzard ####.

There were several lesser methods of catching this boy rather than ramming his car and rendering him a vegetable for the rest of his life.
 

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
Richard Cranium said:
You guys are kidding, right?

-Was there an immediate threat to the driver or the public?
-
Yes and that's why the cops bumped him. 3 tons of steel hitting anything at 90 mph is a danger to the public.
Once again justice prevailed
 

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
Richard Cranium said:
There were several lesser methods of catching this boy rather than ramming his car and rendering him a vegetable for the rest of his life.
One of which is pull your car over when ordered to do so.
Only one person CHOSE to make it a chase.
Who should pay for that choice?
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
Richard Cranium said:
There were several lesser methods of catching this boy rather than ramming his car and rendering him a vegetable for the rest of his life.
Him obeying the cops in the first place..

Him not running..

Stopping when told to stop..

He's paralyzed, hopefully he's learned his lesson and won't do it again.

Of course you were there so you know the situation that led to the supervisor telling the pursuing officers to stop it now.

I have no sympathy for the CRIMINAL that got pralyzed..

And if they didn't stop him, and he ended up running into a minivan full of kids, killing all of them, you'd be whining that the cops didn't do anything to stop him.. We've got your number, whatever the cops do, it's wrong..
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
pingrr said:
A lot a places have rules that say the police can not get in a high speed chace unless a felony or a crime againet another person was commited.

It's a felony to run..

And if a you stop a person for a speeding ticket, and they run, wouldn't you assume that there was a reason? You usually don't get into high speed chases to not get a $70 ticket.. You, as a cop, wouldn't know why he is running.. Drugs in the car? maybe.. Ten year old kid in the trunk? possible.. Just killed someone and are driving their car? could be. A wanted felon? highly possible..

SO the cops should just say.. Damn, they're running, just let them go.. NEXT crime they commit maybe we'll catch them.
 

Pete

Repete
I hope they wheel him around from school to school like an exhibit and make the kids change his colostomy bag as a demonstration of WTf can happen to you when you start a high speed chase..
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
Pete said:
I hope they wheel him around from school to school like an exhibit and make the kids change his colostomy bag as a demonstration of WTf can happen to you when you start a high speed chase..
:yeahthat:

I LIKE that idea..
 

pingrr

Well-Known Member
itsbob said:
It's a felony to run..

And if a you stop a person for a speeding ticket, and they run, wouldn't you assume that there was a reason? You usually don't get into high speed chases to not get a $70 ticket.. You, as a cop, wouldn't know why he is running.. Drugs in the car? maybe.. Ten year old kid in the trunk? possible.. Just killed someone and are driving their car? could be. A wanted felon? highly possible..

SO the cops should just say.. Damn, they're running, just let them go.. NEXT crime they commit maybe we'll catch them.


I don;t think it is a felony to run from the police. It is a crime just not a felony.

The Maryland State Police are required to call it in and get permission for a high speeed pursuit. In baltimore city and PG county the police are not allowed to have a high speed chace at all.
 

Lenny

Lovin' being Texican
pingrr said:
I don;t think it is a felony to run from the police. It is a crime just not a felony.

The Maryland State Police are required to call it in and get permission for a high speeed pursuit. In baltimore city and PG county the police are not allowed to have a high speed chace at all.


...and you are saying that Maryland and Baltimore are the best examples for the health of the public? Heaven help us if you also vote.
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
pingrr said:
I don;t think it is a felony to run from the police. It is a crime just not a felony.

The Maryland State Police are required to call it in and get permission for a high speeed pursuit. In baltimore city and PG county the police are not allowed to have a high speed chace at all.

I hate it when you are right, but in Maryland it is a misdemeanor to flee.
 

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
pingrr said:
I don;t think it is a felony to run from the police. It is a crime just not a felony.

The Maryland State Police are required to call it in and get permission for a high speeed pursuit. In baltimore city and PG county the police are not allowed to have a high speed chace at all.
.. and maryland also requires you to run away if someone breaks down your front door.
This state is run by criminals for the criminals
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
pingrr said:
I don;t think it is a felony to run from the police. It is a crime just not a felony.

The Maryland State Police are required to call it in and get permission for a high speeed pursuit. In baltimore city and PG county the police are not allowed to have a high speed chace at all.
Yeah. You are right. We live in a liberal state run by and full of wimps that really don't know right from wrong and place blame everywhere but where it should be placed; squarely on the law breaker. You fit right in.
 

pingrr

Well-Known Member
Lenny said:
...and you are saying that Maryland and Baltimore are the best examples for the health of the public? Heaven help us if you also vote.

I don't vote. I have better things to do with my time. I am also very far from being a liberal. I just think that when the police get in a high speed chace they end up puting a lot of inocent people at risk.

There are times when it just isn't worth it to chase somone. Expecially if it is over a minor offence.

I could care less about the criminals rites.

I think Maryland has a 10 point titcket called fleeing and aluding. That they give you when you try and run.

If they got the guys tag number they could just show up at his house and arrested him later that night.
 
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