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KingFish

Nothing to see here
But But But the new ferry system will stop at Solomons, bringing peeps from all over the bay region! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A whole new way of life :jameo:
Ferry system will be a big waste of money. I cannot see if lasting if they move forward with it.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
Ferry system will be a big waste of money. I cannot see if lasting if they move forward with it.
I don't see how it is remotely possible for that silly proposal to move forward. There's no money to be made there...so that keeps entrepreneurs out. The counties and state sure don't have tens of millions for startup and millions every year for eternal subsidies to keep it running.
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
For your consideration ...


I left the SBA several years before I closed my store in Solomons. Originally, there were a lot of small locally owned businesses. Then came in the Cal Co Gov't folks that got a paycheck whether they worked or not. Many, if not most, did not patronize my store or other small businesses. I got sick of hearing what the libraries and colleges were doing. I got tired of Economic Development people that had never owned a small business- telling us how to run our businesses. They offered "help" and I took them up on it with a couple of meetings. I got NOTHING for them that was helpful or meaningful and considered it a total waste of my time. I can read stuff out of books, too.
Sad to say, I rarely go to the island to patronize the businesses there. I should, however, make it a point to go down and hear Ben Connelly play!


Isn't this the truth. Those in government, (secure in their paychecks, benefit packages, and pensions), create laws, rules, regulations, policies, ordinances, edicts, procedures, guidelines, directives, etc., that hinder truly small businesses, (mom and pop), from starting or expanding, (unless of course one is a corporation with deep pockets for whom all of the above doesn't bother.)

Then, government offers assistance, help, information, encouragement, a helping hand, on how to navigate the regulatory byzantine maze that they created. Then, when a business does finally open for business, there they are taking credit, patting themselves on the back, sending out press releases touting their virtues, for helping that business.

Just look at all the, (pre-filled spaces before construction even begins), businesses that are taking spaces in newly built shopping areas. All corporate owned or franchises. Nary a "small business" anywhere. And of course not, who can afford the high confiscatory triple-net rents these places are demanding, in addition to the regulatory burden and all government fees and taxes?

And where, at one time, a small business was located in a shopping center, those spaces now sit empty, at nearly every shopping center around.
 

frequentflier

happy to be living
I don't see how it is remotely possible for that silly proposal to move forward. There's no money to be made there...so that keeps entrepreneurs out. The counties and state sure don't have tens of millions for startup and millions every year for eternal subsidies to keep it running.
The state needs to build a new bridge. There were two serious accidents yesterday that shut the bridge down. I read that the one last night involving a pedestrian had the bridge shut down for 5 hours!
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
The state needs to build a new bridge. There were two serious accidents yesterday that shut the bridge down. I read that the one last night involving a pedestrian had the bridge shut down for 5 hours!
But a bogus, overly optimistic passenger ferry study only costs tens of thousands of dollars. A new bridge cost a lot more. ;-)
 

NorthBeachPerso

Honorary SMIB
But a bogus, overly optimistic passenger ferry study only costs tens of thousands of dollars. A new bridge cost a lot more. ;-)
So far the study has cost $250K for Phase I. I couldn't find a number for Phase II although it will be at least that much, probably more.

As you know, this comes up every few years when some legislator or other VIP gets a wild hair up his ass about crossing the Bay Bridge. If it ever comes to fruition it will need constant subsidies as far out as can be calculated. It will also become a "rich man's private boat system" because the fees will be so high.

I wonder if Charles Donnelly in Solomon's is still thinking it can dock on land he doesn't own.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
So far the study has cost $250K for Phase I. I couldn't find a number for Phase II although it will be at least that much, probably more.

As you know, this comes up every few years when some legislator or other VIP gets a wild hair up his ass about crossing the Bay Bridge. If it ever comes to fruition it will need constant subsidies as far out as can be calculated. It will also become a "rich man's private boat system" because the fees will be so high.

I wonder if Charles Donnelly in Solomon's is still thinking it can dock on land he doesn't own.
Heck, the day trip ticket cost for the Pt Lookout-Smith Island run is $60/head. And that's a pretty short trip.
 

TPD

the poor dad
I got tired of Economic Development people that had never owned a small business- telling us how to run our businesses. They offered "help" and I took them up on it with a couple of meetings. I got NOTHING for them that was helpful or meaningful and considered it a total waste of my time. I can read stuff out of books, too.
The few times I have tried to work with the SMC Economic Development dept, tourism specifically, it has been a waste of my time. Hell, one time I practically gave them the blueprint for an idea for tourism in Ridge, and they went no where with it. At one time there was a long-time tourism employee who, IMO, was just a warm body filling a position until they could retire. I now see a new tourism director was hire earlier this year. We shall see.

As I was doing some research before posting this, I see that the vist st mary's website is not run by the county, but by a non-profit entity funded by the county. So it appears to me, the county is spending double what it should on tourism - a county funded tourism department AND a non-profit funded website. WTF?! Show me the money and show me the results!



 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
For your consideration ...


The few times I have tried to work with the SMC Economic Development dept, tourism specifically, it has been a waste of my time. Hell, one time I practically gave them the blueprint for an idea for tourism in Ridge, and they went no where with it. At one time there was a long-time tourism employee who, IMO, was just a warm body filling a position until they could retire. I now see a new tourism director was hire earlier this year. We shall see.

As I was doing some research before posting this, I see that the vist st mary's website is not run by the county, but by a non-profit entity funded by the county. So it appears to me, the county is spending double what it should on tourism - a county funded tourism department AND a non-profit funded website. WTF?! Show me the money and show me the results!





When I read something like this, (within that pdf),: "Local businesses and Tourism and Hospitality Industry stakeholders will play a critical role
throughout the process."

I read, that those "stakeholders" are campaign contributors that are expecting things to go their way at the expense of the citizens. Because nothing in that, "Tourism Hospitality Master Plan for St. Mary's County", is seeking any input from the citizens of St. Mary's County. Of course that document was created on 10/7/15, so it might have changed since then, but I highly doubt it.
 
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Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
The few times I have tried to work with the SMC Economic Development dept, tourism specifically, it has been a waste of my time. Hell, one time I practically gave them the blueprint for an idea for tourism in Ridge, and they went no where with it. At one time there was a long-time tourism employee who, IMO, was just a warm body filling a position until they could retire. I now see a new tourism director was hire earlier this year. We shall see.

As I was doing some research before posting this, I see that the vist st mary's website is not run by the county, but by a non-profit entity funded by the county. So it appears to me, the county is spending double what it should on tourism - a county funded tourism department AND a non-profit funded website. WTF?! Show me the money and show me the results!



Way back when...I owned Swann's, the young lady in charge of promoting tourism was very bright, dynamic and fun to work with. We had a very successful first "event" called Piney Point Appreciation Day or something like that and it involved a half dozen or so merchants/businesses from the 249 corridor. Had all sorts of watermen demonstrations, lots of food options..a good time. The next year..I guess she's moved on and nobody picked up her baton. LOL.
 

phreddyp

Well-Known Member
For your consideration ...





Isn't this the truth. Those in government, (secure in their paychecks, benefit packages, and pensions), create laws, rules, regulations, policies, ordinances, edicts, procedures, guidelines, directives, etc., that hinder truly small businesses, (mom and pop), from starting or expanding, (unless of course one is a corporation with deep pockets for whom all of the above doesn't bother.)

Then, government offers assistance, help, information, encouragement, a helping hand, on how to navigate the regulatory byzantine maze that they created. Then, when a business does finally open for business, there they are taking credit, patting themselves on the back, sending out press releases touting their virtues, for helping that business.

Just look at all the, (pre-filled spaces before construction even begins), businesses that are taking spaces in newly built shopping areas. All corporate owned or franchises. Nary a "small business" anywhere. And of course not, who can afford the high confiscatory triple-net rents these places are demanding, in addition to the regulatory burden and all government fees and taxes?

And where, at one time, a small business was located in a shopping center, those spaces now sit empty, at nearly every shopping center around.
More drivel, you certainly don't disappoint!
 
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