Light Rail/Communter Rail to the Base and DC?

J.South

Let's get drunk
I thought the philosophy on why not to have the District so accessibly was to keep the bad elements out of southern md
 

dustin

UAIOE
J.South said:
I thought the philosophy on why not to have the District so accessibly was to keep the bad elements out of southern md

Don't know where you heard that....but that ideology is long gone...
 

sleuth

Livin' Like Thanksgivin'
Bogart said:
Why would you start the line at PAX? That would just cram all the commuters down here with the people smart enough to move to where there job is. Put it on 235 north of Hollywood where there would be some parking.
Prince Frederick or St. Leonard would be a good place to start the line, too. :yay:
 

Bogart

New Member
sleuth said:
Prince Frederick or St. Leonard would be a good place to start the line, too. :yay:
Prince Fred is already a major bottleneck. You want to put it in the sticks where you can get cheap land for parking.
 

UrbanPancake

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sleuth said:
Prince Frederick or St. Leonard would be a good place to start the line, too. :yay:

I agree. I think it just needs to start.
I don't know what that guy in that earlier post was talking about keeping the bad district out of southern maryland was all about. The Dirstict is a very nice place to live. You have everything you need within walking distance, and you have the most expensive real estate located within the area. Besides as the District gets nicer and pricier that forces the residents from south east to live farther and farther out of DC, which means they're moving to southern maryland whether you like it or not.
 

Bogart

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UrbanPancake said:
I agree. I think it just needs to start.
I don't know what that guy in that earlier post was talking about keeping the bad district out of southern maryland was all about. The Dirstict is a very nice place to live. You have everything you need within walking distance, and you have the most expensive real estate located within the area. Besides as the District gets nicer and pricier that forces the residents from south east to live farther and farther out of DC, which means they're moving to southern maryland whether you like it or not.
you sound racist - i thought you were one of those compassionate liberals
 

UrbanPancake

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Bogart said:
you sound racist - i thought you were one of those compassionate liberals

I am a compassionate liberal. Someone else posted that the reason why we shouldn't have commuter rail to southern maryland is to keep the district out. I was just responding to it. In retrospect I should have placed a quote too. :cheers:
 

Aimhigh2000

Active Member
Transportation

I think we shouldn't just look at it as a commuter service from here to there. I think we should look at an overall transportation plan. We don't neccessarily need our own version of Metro, but I do think that we should at least map out a foundation. We all know that the region is growing, and, I know in St. Mary's, it seems if you want to build a subdivision, they will let you build it anywhere (IMO). Prince Frederick is miserable, 235 to the base is miserable and Rt 5/301 is just crazy. I would settle for rail service from Waldorf to Branch Ave for now. If I could find a job in St. Mary's that pays what I make now, then I wouldn't have to commute. Looking on the county website, I couldn't take a job that only paid $24k a year. I say we work on getting MARC or something similar to start with, and get a tri-county transportation team to make an informed, and comprehensive regional transit system.
 

sleuth

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Bogart said:
Prince Fred is already a major bottleneck. You want to put it in the sticks where you can get cheap land for parking.
Well Prince Frederick is a little too far north for those down in so. Calvert. You'd have to drive 20 minutes from Solomons before you even got on the train. So it's best to put it somewhere a little further south.

Put it in Lusby or St. Leonard, with another in Hollywood. A Pax stop wouldn't be such a bad thing for those who want to commute from Pax to DC - probably wouldn't be the busiest section of the line anyway.
 

UrbanPancake

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Bogart said:
subdivisions are stupid

I agree with you on this issue Bogart. They build all of these subdivisions without planning them out. They build them in the middle of nowhere, and then they have to spend more tax dollars on providing services such as water and sewage lines farther from the developed areas. The commissioners support all of this urban sprawl.
 

sleuth

Livin' Like Thanksgivin'
Aimhigh2000 said:
I think we shouldn't just look at it as a commuter service from here to there. I think we should look at an overall transportation plan. We don't neccessarily need our own version of Metro, but I do think that we should at least map out a foundation. We all know that the region is growing, and, I know in St. Mary's, it seems if you want to build a subdivision, they will let you build it anywhere (IMO). Prince Frederick is miserable, 235 to the base is miserable and Rt 5/301 is just crazy. I would settle for rail service from Waldorf to Branch Ave for now. If I could find a job in St. Mary's that pays what I make now, then I wouldn't have to commute. Looking on the county website, I couldn't take a job that only paid $24k a year. I say we work on getting MARC or something similar to start with, and get a tri-county transportation team to make an informed, and comprehensive regional transit system.
The difficult part of connecting the southern maryland counties is that big ol' river right in the middle of 'em.

They can't even put up another bridge to replace the Thomas Johnson because A) there's no land for it and B) there's no money for it. Once BRAC goes through and the land for the Navy Rec Center goes back to Calvert, then they might be able to run a bridge between there and the state park on the other side.

But if we can't even get a bridge for cars put up, how are they gonna put up a bridge for a train? :confused: Maybe they can use one bridge for both... :shrug:
 

J.South

Let's get drunk
dustin said:
Don't know where you heard that....but that ideology is long gone...

Granted I did hear that when I first moved down here. There are still people who think like that
 

crabcake

But wait, there's more...
I take the bus from Charlotte Hall into DC, and I gotta say that I don't wanna really see a train into our area. At first, I was all for it. But then I remembered why I moved away from Waldorf. Bringing the train down here would turn us into Southern Prince Georges Ghetto, and I'd rather not see that happen. After all, that's why there's that buffer between us called Charles County! :lol:

Having the metro extend to Brandywine, or a train into that general area would help alleviate a lot of the current northbound congestion tremendously! :yay:
 

Aimhigh2000

Active Member
Oh, the thought

Good point. Well, there is the thought <shudder> of going under it. But that would be massive. Heck, build a tunnel for cars and trains LOL. They did it in B'more. We don't have to build right away, just lay out the plan. I agree we have to start small.
 
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Aimhigh2000

Active Member
Eww, not metro

I agree that a "metro" like train is not good, although it works for Rockville. I am suggesting something more like the MARC train. I also think that if Metro is the answer, planning is the key to developing proplerly around a metro station. I mean, not to imply or sound racist, but lower income people tend to stay closer to "city services" and rely heavily on public transportation. Southern MD does not honestly have many 24 hr services. The MARC train runs from DC to Harper's Ferry W.VA. I think if WVA has rail service, we should be able to get something this way.
 
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