Light Rail/Communter Rail to the Base and DC?

UrbanPancake

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I don't think it could happen all at once. If you start it in phases you'll keep the cost down, and you can do a study on ridership.
 

UrbanPancake

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I think we also need to improve the highways, with a combination of public transportation. We can't keep adding lanes to accomodate more traffic. Who wants to travel on highway that is as wide as a football field?
 
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Aimhigh2000

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A bit late

Ok, I have been busy at work, but let me back up a bit to if the base were to close. If the base closed, it could easily be converted into a regional airport. There is already infrastucture in place, so it could potentially be an international hub as well. A commuter rail that came down to it could be used by those that do not like flying out of Washington or travelling down to Dulles. It could also ease congestion at BWI. Also, if this "technology corridor" were to take off, buildings would be able to go higher without the base restrictions. Companies could relocate and with the ease of an airport, I think it could be a plus. Just a what if thought.
 

UrbanPancake

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Aimhigh2000 said:
Ok, I have been busy at work, but let me back up a bit to if the base were to close. If the base closed, it could easily be converted into a regional airport. There is already infrastucture in place, so it could potentially be an international hub as well. A commuter rail that came down to it could be used by those that do not like flying out of Washington or travelling down to Dulles. It could also ease congestion at BWI. Also, if this "technology corridor" were to take off, buildings would be able to go higher without the base restrictions. Companies could relocate and with the ease of an airport, I think it could be a plus. Just a what if thought.

I'm glad I'm not the only who thinks the base can never be replaced.
 

Aimhigh2000

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Just Practical

I mean, it could even be a hub for Fed/EX, UPS, DHL. There is a golf course on base, a huge pool. I think it would be ideal for businesses. Most of the noise would be averted by the planes coming in over the bay. The base is huge and their are many possibilities for its use should it close. The question would be who would get the land, and if the county got the land back, would our leaders develop it correctly.
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
Aimhigh2000 said:
I mean, it could even be a hub for Fed/EX, UPS, DHL. There is a golf course on base, a huge pool. I think it would be ideal for businesses. Most of the noise would be averted by the planes coming in over the bay. The base is huge and their are many possibilities for its use should it close. The question would be who would get the land, and if the county got the land back, would our leaders develop it correctly.
Considering that the base and the work accomplished there is well established, and in many aspects unique, I suspect it will survive the next round of closures. But either way the light rail just isn't something that will be down here for many years as we do not have the population base that would make it worthwhile or cost effective. Waldorf, on the other hand, has become extremely congested and has the numbers of people that could make it work and wouldn't be that far off the beaten path for most commuters from down here to use it. That is as long as they plan right and make a lot of parking available.
 

Pete

Repete
Aimhigh2000 said:
Ok, I have been busy at work, but let me back up a bit to if the base were to close. If the base closed, it could easily be converted into a regional airport. There is already infrastucture in place, so it could potentially be an international hub as well. A commuter rail that came down to it could be used by those that do not like flying out of Washington or travelling down to Dulles. It could also ease congestion at BWI. Also, if this "technology corridor" were to take off, buildings would be able to go higher without the base restrictions. Companies could relocate and with the ease of an airport, I think it could be a plus. Just a what if thought.
I think you are wrong. The base doesn’t have the hangar space nor are they large enough for multiple commercial aircraft. The warehouse space is limited and outdated. The power plants, roads, and a bulk of the buildings are not suitable for commercial use. With BWI, Dulles, and Reagan all within 60 miles, the main entrance and exit to this area being RT 5 and 2 dual lane bridges the base would make a horrible place to convert and try to use. I can list off many bases and towns that had the same thoughts, Loring AFB, Pease AFB, Moffet Field NAS all had high hopes of converting to commercial use and flopped.

Second, if the base closed, the “technology corridor” would dry up as well because the base is the main reason most are here.
 

UrbanPancake

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Pete said:
I think you are wrong. The base doesn’t have the hangar space nor are they large enough for multiple commercial aircraft. The warehouse space is limited and outdated. The power plants, roads, and a bulk of the buildings are not suitable for commercial use. With BWI, Dulles, and Reagan all within 60 miles, the main entrance and exit to this area being RT 5 and 2 dual lane bridges the base would make a horrible place to convert and try to use. I can list off many bases and towns that had the same thoughts, Loring AFB, Pease AFB, Moffet Field NAS all had high hopes of converting to commercial use and flopped.

Second, if the base closed, the “technology corridor” would dry up as well because the base is the main reason most are here.

WOW.....do you have any references to back up your claim? Or are you an expert in the conversion of bases into commercial uses?
 

Pete

Repete
UrbanPancake said:
WOW.....do you have any references to back up your claim? Or are you an expert in the conversion of bases into commercial uses?
**Special one time reply for you**

You have no credibility with me. You do not rate the privilege of discussing anything with me. You are an intellectual black hole and I will not waste my time. ESAD
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
UrbanPancake said:
WOW.....do you have any references to back up your claim? Or are you an expert in the conversion of bases into commercial uses?
Sounds to me like he has knowledge of those specific fields and he is right the base is rather spread out and is in no way like many large civilian air fields. BTW are you an expert on light rail systems?
 

UrbanPancake

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Ken King said:
Sounds to me like he has knowledge of those specific fields and he is right the base is rather spread out and is in no way like many large civilian air fields. BTW are you an expert on light rail systems?

Yes, as a matter of fact I am. :kiss:
 

UrbanPancake

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Personally with St. Mary's County being so close to DC, I don't think they would close a base that is strategically placed at the mouth of the Patuxent.
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
UrbanPancake said:
Yes, as a matter of fact I am. :kiss:
Then you should know the cost per mile for the service you say we need, shouldn't you? Lay it out, what your proposal would cost in today's dollars (realizing that it will be many years until anything similar would be in place)?
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
UrbanPancake said:
Personally with St. Mary's County being so close to DC, I don't think they would close a base that is strategically placed at the mouth of the Patuxent.
There is very little strategic value to Pax, though that could be beefed up. Norfolk, Oceana, and Langley at the mouth of the bay are considerably more strategic to strictly defensive measures. We serve two basic functions - the USN Test Pilot School and Naval Aviation Test and Evaluation.
 

pvineswinger

Swinging on Vines
Ken King said:
There is very little strategic value to Pax, though that could be beefed up. Norfolk, Oceana, and Langley at the mouth of the bay are considerably more strategic to strictly defensive measures. We serve two basic functions - the USN Test Pilot School and Naval Aviation Test and Evaluation.
I think we need a better mass transit system around here- how the he11 am I supposed to get home from the bar when I'm "sobriety-impaired" (being PC)!! :drunk:
I only have one thing to say, and yes I'm a little bit of a tree hugger-
Light Rail= noise= pollution= destroying some of the most beautiful land in Maryland.
I don't want train tracks in my back yard, where a frog pond used to be. :sad:
 
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