Lock Her Up! Lock Her up!

StmarysCity79

Well-Known Member
Does it matter if I am or not? The contention that there was no evidence Clinton and her team did illegal things was wrong. That was the point. Not how I felt about it.

The contention was that no charges were brought against her. And that even the accusations did not rise to the level of what Trump has been accused of.

You can not have taken joy in screaming Lock her Up and now claim that what is happening is somehow Bidens fault and unfair,
 

glhs837

Power with Control
What is happening to Trump now is exactly what Trump told you he was going to do to Hillary when he won.

Instead nothing happened because there was no evidence and she was never charged with anything.

Also Trump used it as a tool to lie to you and rile you up. Just like they are doing now with the groomer/Pedo nonsense.

It turns out however there is tons of evidence, video, tape and photographic evidence.

Yet now you claim it is unfair and somehow Biden is attacking his political opponents.


Does anything in your head ever make logical sense?

Is it possible for you to be ethically and morally consistent?

How can you conflate the two things?

The contention was that no charges were brought against her. And that even the accusations did not rise to the level of what Trump has been accused of.

You can not have taken joy in screaming Lock her Up and now claim that what is happening is somehow Bidens fault and unfair,

Sorry, but you said quite clearly that there was no evidence.
 

StmarysCity79

Well-Known Member
Sorry, but you said quite clearly that there was no evidence.


You've done a lot of heavy lifting to paint Hillary as guilty for her alleged actions while failing to condemn Trump for much much worse alleged behavior


I wonder why that is?

And I wonder why only 1 of them has been indicted twice. so far
 

glhs837

Power with Control
You've done a lot of heavy lifting to paint Hillary as guilty for her alleged actions while failing to condemn Trump for much much worse alleged behavior


I wonder why that is?

And I wonder why only 1 of them has been indicted twice. so far

Funny you think that taking 30 seconds to find an original source is heavy lifting. I've never mentioned Trump. As for much worse? Not sure how leaving classified material on an unsecured private for years is worse.

I'm not a Trump fan. Theres a lot I dislike about the man. Posted about if here many times. But watching the system bend over backwards to screw him over (and no, he certainly doesnt help himslef) is pretty revealing.
 

StmarysCity79

Well-Known Member
Funny you think that taking 30 seconds to find an original source is heavy lifting. I've never mentioned Trump. As for much worse? Not sure how leaving classified material on an unsecured private for years is worse.

I'm not a Trump fan. Theres a lot I dislike about the man. Posted about if here many times. But watching the system bend over backwards to screw him over (and no, he certainly doesnt help himslef) is pretty revealing.

The materials were only classified after. and it wasnt for years.

Trump removed documents that are only allowed to be in a SCIF and shared them with people with no clearances

Left them sitting in an unguarded bathroom and refused to return them to the FBI for almost a year. And lied to the FBI about even having them.

Who is the system bending over backwards by enforcing the law? Isn't that exactly what you wanted them to do to Hillary? Would you have called that bending over backwards?
 

glhs837

Power with Control
The materials were only classified after. and it wasnt for years.

Trump removed documents that are only allowed to be in a SCIF and shared them with people with no clearances

Left them sitting in an unguarded bathroom and refused to return them to the FBI for almost a year. And lied to the FBI about even having them.

Who is the system bending over backwards by enforcing the law? Isn't that exactly what you wanted them to do to Hillary? Would you have called that bending over backwards?

So the stuff marked with a classification marking was edited after sitting on the server? How long was it, what's your source on that, Reddit?
 

StmarysCity79

Well-Known Member
So the stuff marked with a classification marking was edited after sitting on the server? How long was it, what's your source on that, Reddit?

"Separate from those, about 2,000 additional e-mails were “up-classified” to make them Confidential; the information in those had not been classified at the time the e-mails were sent."

" i should add here that we found no evidence that any of the additional work-related e-mails were intentionally deleted in an effort to conceal them. Our assessment is that, like many e-mail users, Secretary Clinton periodically deleted e-mails or e-mails were purged from the system when devices were changed"

"In looking back at our investigations into mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. All the cases prosecuted involved some combination of: clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here."

"As a result, although the Department of Justice makes final decisions on matters like this, we are expressing to Justice our view that no charges are appropriate in this case."


It is literally in Comey's statement which i am sure you never took the time to read.

 

glhs837

Power with Control
"Separate from those, about 2,000 additional e-mails were “up-classified” to make them Confidential; the information in those had not been classified at the time the e-mails were sent."

" i should add here that we found no evidence that any of the additional work-related e-mails were intentionally deleted in an effort to conceal them. Our assessment is that, like many e-mail users, Secretary Clinton periodically deleted e-mails or e-mails were purged from the system when devices were changed"

"In looking back at our investigations into mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. All the cases prosecuted involved some combination of: clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here."

"As a result, although the Department of Justice makes final decisions on matters like this, we are expressing to Justice our view that no charges are appropriate in this case."


It is literally in Comey's statement which i am sure you never took the time to read.

Way to miss the most important bits.

1. Secretary Clinton’s use of a personal e-mail system - Knowingly placing classified information onto a personal electronic device is a ****ING CRIME!!!! And yes, she knew she had a personal server. And these were not cleared by State, nor were they turned into State for proper declassification/destruction when they were removed from service. These are ****ING CRIMES!!!!!

2. "From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification.

Number 2 is the real deal. Let me receive and forward just one Top Secret document on my Gmail and watch me lose my freaking job. Eight of them? Yeah, I'm doing time.
 
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